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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 9:51 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 2:39 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Greetings all.
I wonder how many people here have read the Harry Potter books or seen the movies?
I have seen them all, and enjoyed them immensely. That said, I am not certain I would permit my (future) children to read them if indeed I had any.
If and when I find a humble,dutiful Catholic wife with whom to procreate with ( no contraceptives please!!  ) I think I might want to keep Jk Rowlings books out of their hands.
Idk, I just hear they can be a bad influence, and can lead kids to doing actual magic (wicca, tarot cards, Ouija boardss) instead of focusing on God and his son Jesus.
It makes me wonder, if Rowling is a Christian, as she claims to be, why do none of the wizards express a faith in Jesus?
Perhaps she she really was just "JK" on the whole christian thing  .
I suppose I won't be able to stop them from forming their own opinions after they become adults (pre 18 is a whole different ball park  !) but I should Id try to keep them on the xtian straight and narrow for as long as possible.
Any thoughts/concerns? Do the Potter books have an anti Christian message?
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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 9:55 pm
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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 9:57 pm
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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 9:59 pm
He maybe a poe, but this position on Harry Potter books is very real. My ex girlfriends mother is a Christian fundie, and like so many good Christian Fundie's she was a recovering addict and she had a twelve year old daughter with another man outside of her marriage. Anyways, she would not let the girl read or see Harry Potter because she thought they where promoting black magic, she also took her out of school when she found out they where teaching evolution.
These people are real and they are really that stupid.
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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 10:02 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 2:39 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Greetings all.
I wonder how many people here have read the Harry Potter books or seen the movies?
I have seen them all, and enjoyed them immensely. That said, I am not certain I would permit my (future) children to read them if indeed I had any.
If and when I find a humble,dutiful Catholic wife with whom to procreate with ( no contraceptives please!! ) I think I might want to keep Jk Rowlings books out of their hands.
Idk, I just hear they can be a bad influence, and can lead kids to doing actual magic (wicca, tarot cards, Ouija boardss) instead of focusing on God and his son Jesus.
It makes me wonder, if Rowling is a Christian, as she claims to be, why do none of the wizards express a faith in Jesus?
Perhaps she she really was just "JK" on the whole christian thing .
I suppose I won't be able to stop them from forming their own opinions after they become adults (pre 18 is a whole different ball park !) but I should Id try to keep them on the xtian straight and narrow for as long as possible.
Any thoughts/concerns? Do the Potter books have an anti Christian message?
So if you have kids you want to censor them and make them resent your belief system? Sounds like a solid plan. Now to the meat of the issue. No the books do not have a antichristian message, in fact they use Christian imagery and portray prophecy as good. They also use a very Christian veiw of good and evil as opposed to books like a song of ice and fire where good and evil are much more blurry. I don't think the books are pro-christian either, simply that jk Rowling's personal ideology had influence on her work, like any good artist will tell you.
I think she left religion out of it for the most part because she wanted to tell a story without heavy handed allegory, like narnia. What she did has been done by many Christian writers like JR Tolkien and Scott Orson Card. Incidentally of the authors I'm familiar with, the ones who use religion the most in their works are Isaac Asimov and George RR Martin. Martin has gone so far as to make religion a central aspect of his created world, in the form of the church of the seven, directly inspired by the medieval church. And Asimov's most famous stand alone story, the last question, ends with a direct quote of genesis 1:1. Both George Martin and Isaac Asimov were open atheists.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 10:02 pm
Have we ever had a fundi on AF?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 10:07 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 10:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Have we ever had a fundi on AF?
Sort of, Does devout count?
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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 10:16 pm
I'm devout, so if that counts I already know it's a yes.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 10:19 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 10:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm devout, so if that counts I already know it's a yes.
It's more somebody who is a biblical literalist and believes the bible to be inerrant, so no I don't consider you a fundamentalist.
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RE: On kids reading Harry Potter?
February 7, 2016 at 10:21 pm
Have we had someone like that here?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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