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What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
Edwardo Piet Away
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 8:00 pm
Definitely.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 8:05 pm
(February 16, 2016 at 11:03 pm)PaulMaul Wrote: Sye Ten and his "brain in a vat" nonsense.

I hear "brain in a vat" and it makes me think of Mars Attacks:





I joked with a friend of mine about how I spend too much time thinking and don't get out enough,
and how I'll eventually end up just a "brain in a vat"
and I'll end up only talking like the aliens in 'Mars Attacks':

"Ak! Ak! Ak! Ak! Ak! Ak!"

....and my friend started laughing a bit and said,

" MTL, honey...you kinda already do. "
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 8:08 pm
Since we're summoning up Sye Ten, and I wish we hadn't, we have to have his irritating "everybody already knows 'God' exists" presup bollocks.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 9:22 pm
(February 14, 2016 at 4:01 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: My personal favorite for amusement purposes is Wendy Wright screeching out to Dawkins "Were you THERE?!!" I don't think I've ever seen such a hysterically stupid person before, and I have met a lot of very stupid religious people!

Oh, and we also had a perfect troll who claimed to be a top biology student, while insisting that every life form shows "perfect design" - yeah, how could I not see how obvious that is?

It's not perfect (it literally couldn't be) but the design is pretty apparent when you look at how the cell works.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 9:26 pm
Another two I hate (in images)

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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 9:57 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 8:08 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Since we're summoning up Sye Ten, and I wish we hadn't, we have to have his irritating "everybody already knows 'God' exists" presup bollocks.

Precisely.

Deep in their hearts all humans know that the AllFather exists and his son, Thor, is his champion upon the Earth.

We even have two week days named after them.  The Abrahamic god, not so much.

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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 10:04 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 9:22 pm)AAA Wrote:
(February 14, 2016 at 4:01 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: My personal favorite for amusement purposes is Wendy Wright screeching out to Dawkins "Were you THERE?!!" I don't think I've ever seen such a hysterically stupid person before, and I have met a lot of very stupid religious people!

Oh, and we also had a perfect troll who claimed to be a top biology student, while insisting that every life form shows "perfect design" - yeah, how could I not see how obvious that is?

It's not perfect (it literally couldn't be) but the design is pretty apparent when you look at how the cell works.


Only if you think argument from analogy and complexity are compelling.

Problem is, complexity is not a sign of design.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 10:13 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 10:04 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(February 17, 2016 at 9:22 pm)AAA Wrote: It's not perfect (it literally couldn't be) but the design is pretty apparent when you look at how the cell works.


Only if you think argument from analogy and complexity are compelling.

Problem is, complexity is not a sign of design.
It's not just complex, though. There are so many purposeful interactions that need to take place in order for the cell to regulate itself. These interactions are dependent on intricate structures, which are dependent on sequence of characters in DNA. When you remove one enzyme, the whole system might no longer be able to function. So the problem is that in order for it to work well enough to evolve (reproduce), you need tens of thousands of nucleotides in a proper sequence. It couldn't get there gradually, at least not by mutation and natural selection.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 10:39 pm
(February 17, 2016 at 10:13 pm)AAA Wrote:
(February 17, 2016 at 10:04 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Only if you think argument from analogy and complexity are compelling.

Problem is, complexity is not a sign of design.
It's not just complex, though. There are so many purposeful interactions that need to take place in order for the cell to regulate itself. These interactions are dependent on intricate structures, which are dependent on sequence of characters in DNA. When you remove one enzyme, the whole system might no longer be able to function. So the problem is that in order for it to work well enough to evolve (reproduce), you need tens of thousands of nucleotides in a proper sequence. It couldn't get there gradually, at least not by mutation and natural selection.

Look out, guys. Irreducible complexity bullshit coming up real soon.
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RE: What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?
February 17, 2016 at 10:42 pm
Worst argument I heard:

"If evolution is true then how come there aren't slug people that slugs have evolved from?"
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