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(February 24, 2016 at 4:00 pm)Drich Wrote: So in the middle of Day three Everything (between verse 10 and 11) Genesis 2 happened. (the garden, Creation of Man, the charge of care taker, creation of woman, and the freedom to eat anything in the garden except for the tree of knoweledge, this includes the tree of life which we hear about in genesis 3.)
Now what does all of this mean? that everything happening outside the garden was by the official record, was not on the same time table Garden life was on. The planet was a barren waste land (it had not rained yet for the first time no plants. only land and sea) and in the middle of it all was a lush green perfect garden that had 4 rivers flowing from it. This means the completed picture found in Garden life did not reflect the evolutionary process of everything outside the protected Garden. Which then also makes terms like the "circle of the earth" the "dome of the sky" make sense if you can picture the Garden as being placed under a cake dish or big shield that kept everything in that was supposed to be in, and everything else out.
Now if Genesis 2 happens on day three between verse 10 and 11, what makes us think that events in genesis 3 happened the very next day? (this is the YEC assumption)
Again if we speak where the bible speaks and remain silent where the bible is silent, we could indeed have a day 4 fall from grace (before the rest of the world was complete,) but not likly. for one genesis 1 does not support a day 4 fall from grace. So then any timeline man/the church puts on the events of genesis 3 is pure speculation.
I assure you, Drich, that I don't require what passes as "knowledge" from you, to educate me in the demographics of my home state. I understand politics as well as, if not better than you do. While Northern VA (DC Metropolitan area) leaning heavily Democratic has affected the most RECENT election outcomes and resulted in this "purplish" phenomenon, the Commonwealth of Virginia by and large, remains a deeply conservative state.
You'd do well to know that I've never lived in Northern VA. I was born, raised, and currently reside in parts of what's known as the rest of the state: You know, the good ole' conservative Republican, Confederate flag-waving, Bible-thumping, NRA-worshiping South? It is most certainly the same as it was prior to the last two Presidential elections; Red as the goddamned day is long.
Outside of NOVA, Virginia isby no stretch of the imagination, anything NEAR a blue state, liberal-loving, hippie wet dream, PC kowtowing fantasy-land. It never has been. You simply MUST know better than that, so there's no point in persisting to suggest otherwise.
Your woefully stupid assumption that a "sheltered, blue-state upbringing" is responsible for my "flawed thinking" was dead fucking wrong. Have you got the balls to admit that, Dipshit? If not, maybe you should STFU...before you I make you eat your words yet again.
Target lock.. you familiar with that term?
It's when one fixates on their target so hard they become oblivious to everything else around them. It's a term fighter pilots use to describe when one of them fixates so hard on destroying a enemy plane they miss the target's wing man shooting at them, or they do not realize how close they are to the ground and slam into it. The guys with target lock are the one's who generally gets destroyed.
Your 'target lock'/fixation on which county you live in, in an attempt to destroy my "cake Icing" (I even labled my 'fluff' and you still fell for it!! Butt hurt Pride is a hellva thing. It forces you to hand over the keys to your emotions and cognitive thinking to anyone wanting to control it.)
It has left you completely open to the primary point I was making (my wing man). So now I get to do a proper victory lap!!
Because, While you were so busy obliterating my Cake icing with everything at your disposal You intentionally left out my main point which was something you even cut from my quote, so let's look at it again shall we:
Drich Wrote:The reason I wanted you to look up the term blue state was so that you could see how isolated this ideology was and how relatively small an area these philosophies are predominate. verses the rest of the united states, verses the rest of the world.i repeatedly showed you that your personal thoughts and beliefs were contained only in areas who mandate and force tolerance. which again is not how the majority of this country works let alone the rest of the world.
Wonder why you did not answer that... oh, that's right:
This is me 'forcing' you to 'learn somthin' whiles use is a kick'n and a scream'n at me. stings a little bit doughnut?
git it? Starwars.. Forcing you
If and when you can swallow some of that pride and admit that your world view is limited to a relatively very small part of the world and can accept the authority of the articles and papers I have posted that not only out line the very problem you are either to butt hurt to admit exists, or just blind to (because you do infact live in a blue state of mind) we can continue a respectful and civil conversation. However if you want to "stay on target" then know I will make every effort to clown you that I possible can.
Why? because this topic is very serious to me and people like you made my life hell because they would not (like you) admit their was a problem in society biracial people are having because their parents are often either too ill equip or just too damn selfish to address. The prevailing attitude being 'our love or the family's love will be enough to replace any lost sense of racial identity.'
If indeed you are bi-racial and did not grow up like this, fine. In my opening statement I made a provision for people like you. sit their and be happy. However know everyone else did not grow up as you did. I left at least 1/2 a dozen references that point to the very issues and root causes i have listed here in my own words. Everything from an transcribed episode of Opra, to a Harvard reviewed book "A must read for parents of bi-racial children" To a sociology paper that transcribed actual sessions and gave a conclusion that mirrors my own assessment!
If you can't admit to this then you don't have anything else to say, that I need to read.
Sorry Dorothy, but no victory lap for you! From the beginning, I informed you that I personally know of many, mixed race youngsters who are well-adjusted, reasonably happy, and well-liked and accepted DESPITE living in a conservative state, remember? I know it must be difficult for you to keep your shit straight when attempting to build a response solely based on your personal feelings, manipulation, and lies, but do try and make the effort m'kay?
And I've repeatedly acknowledged that some biracial children struggle with surrounding their identity. I just refuse to accept your position that they're ALL the miserably confused, shunned wretches YOU make them out to be as absolute truth, when I clearly witness otherwise much of the time. And what a smarmy asshole you are, after all the these fucking posts to to outright LIE with this pretense that I was making the all-or-nothing declarations, instead of YOU. You may just be one of the most backwards and dishonest turds that I know.
Quit reading and responding to my posts if you wish; I won't lose a fuckin' wink over it.
(February 25, 2016 at 4:24 pm)Drich Wrote: Target lock.. you familiar with that term?
It's when one fixates on their target so hard they become oblivious to everything else around them. It's a term fighter pilots use to describe when one of them fixates so hard on destroying a enemy plane they miss the target's wing man shooting at them, or they do not realize how close they are to the ground and slam into it. The guys with target lock are the one's who generally gets destroyed.
Your 'target lock'/fixation on which county you live in, in an attempt to destroy my "cake Icing" (I even labled my 'fluff' and you still fell for it!! Butt hurt Pride is a hellva thing. It forces you to hand over the keys to your emotions and cognitive thinking to anyone wanting to control it.)
It has left you completely open to the primary point I was making (my wing man). So now I get to do a proper victory lap!!
Because, While you were so busy obliterating my Cake icing with everything at your disposal You intentionally left out my main point which was something you even cut from my quote, so let's look at it again shall we:
Wonder why you did not answer that... oh, that's right:
This is me 'forcing' you to 'learn somthin' whiles use is a kick'n and a scream'n at me. stings a little bit doughnut?
git it? Starwars.. Forcing you
If and when you can swallow some of that pride and admit that your world view is limited to a relatively very small part of the world and can accept the authority of the articles and papers I have posted that not only out line the very problem you are either to butt hurt to admit exists, or just blind to (because you do infact live in a blue state of mind) we can continue a respectful and civil conversation. However if you want to "stay on target" then know I will make every effort to clown you that I possible can.
Why? because this topic is very serious to me and people like you made my life hell because they would not (like you) admit their was a problem in society biracial people are having because their parents are often either too ill equip or just too damn selfish to address. The prevailing attitude being 'our love or the family's love will be enough to replace any lost sense of racial identity.'
If indeed you are bi-racial and did not grow up like this, fine. In my opening statement I made a provision for people like you. sit their and be happy. However know everyone else did not grow up as you did. I left at least 1/2 a dozen references that point to the very issues and root causes i have listed here in my own words. Everything from an transcribed episode of Opra, to a Harvard reviewed book "A must read for parents of bi-racial children" To a sociology paper that transcribed actual sessions and gave a conclusion that mirrors my own assessment!
If you can't admit to this then you don't have anything else to say, that I need to read.
Sorry Dorothy, but no victory lap for you! From the beginning, I informed you that I personally know of many, mixed race youngsters who are well-adjusted, reasonably happy, and well-liked and accepted DESPITE living in a conservative state, remember? I know it must be difficult for you to keep your shit straight when attempting to build a response solely based on your personal feelings, manipulation, and lies, but do try and make the effort m'kay?
And I've repeatedly acknowledged that some biracial children struggle with surrounding their identity. I just refuse to accept your position that they're ALL the miserably confused, shunned wretches YOU make them out to be as absolute truth, when I clearly witness otherwise much of the time. And what a smarmy asshole you are, after all the these fucking posts to to outright LIE with this pretense that I was making the all-or-nothing declarations, instead of YOU. You may just be one of the most backwards and dishonest turds that I know.
Quit reading and responding to my posts if you wish; I won't lose a fuckin' wink over it.
Whew, I thought I dropped the hammer too hard on you, and you went away for good. welcome back!
Not to harp on the target lock thing, but again. This is beyond your personal experience and my own. Understand I lead with my experiences and you felt you could invalidate them. But understand I did not lead with them and end with them. I lead with my personal experiences inorder to validate or support the studies, the books, the Harvard recommended reading materials, and even the episode of ophra I also quoted/referenced that not only outlines every single point I made, but also supports my conclusions...
If you read my bit about target lock you should have been able to see that your determination to refute my personal experiences and validate your own over mine, as blinded you to all of the other studies, books, papers and media attention the problem I was outlining.
Your petty attempt to invalidate my experience with what you feel is correct is absolutely meaningless. What I 'feel' is correct is also absolutely meaningless without support. That is why i quoted so much More legitimate material support on the subject. Support you have YET to acknowledge. Your failure to acknowledge this material support does not make it go away. this material support is my wing man that shoots you down because you are so focused on my personal argument.
Do you understand now?
You ear that??
....yeee-oooww-nnngggg......
(the Doppler effect)
Drich, a circled the track again with a second victory lap, because 'thena' does seem to get the race is and has been Oh-vaa! for some time now!
Sorry Dorothy, but no victory lap for you! From the beginning, I informed you that I personally know of many, mixed race youngsters who are well-adjusted, reasonably happy, and well-liked and accepted DESPITE living in a conservative state, remember? I know it must be difficult for you to keep your shit straight when attempting to build a response solely based on your personal feelings, manipulation, and lies, but do try and make the effort m'kay?
And I've repeatedly acknowledged that some biracial children struggle with surrounding their identity. I just refuse to accept your position that they're ALL the miserably confused, shunned wretches YOU make them out to be as absolute truth, when I clearly witness otherwise much of the time. And what a smarmy asshole you are, after all the these fucking posts to to outright LIE with this pretense that I was making the all-or-nothing declarations, instead of YOU. You may just be one of the most backwards and dishonest turds that I know.
Quit reading and responding to my posts if you wish; I won't lose a fuckin' wink over it.
Whew, I thought I dropped the hammer too hard on you, and you went away for good. welcome back!
Not to harp on the target lock thing, but again. This is beyond your personal experience and my own. Understand I lead with my experiences and you felt you could invalidate them. But understand I did not lead with them and end with them. I lead with my personal experiences inorder to validate or support the studies, the books, the Harvard recommended reading materials, and even the episode of ophra I also quoted/referenced that not only outlines every single point I made, but also supports my conclusions...
If you read my bit about target lock you should have been able to see that your determination to refute my personal experiences and validate your own over mine, as blinded you to all of the other studies, books, papers and media attention the problem I was outlining.
Your petty attempt to invalidate my experience with what you feel is correct is absolutely meaningless. What I 'feel' is correct is also absolutely meaningless without support. That is why i quoted so much More legitimate material support on the subject. Support you have YET to acknowledge. Your failure to acknowledge this material support does not make it go away. this material support is my wing man that shoots you down because you are so focused on my personal argument.
Do you understand now?
You ear that??
....yeee-oooww-nnngggg......
(the Doppler effect)
Drich, a circled the track again with a second victory lap, because 'thena' does seem to get the race is and has been Oh-vaa! for some time now!
For fuck's sake, interacting with you seriously brings the movie Rainman to mind. I never invalidated your personal experiences, nor did I require your "supportive material" as evidence. I took you at your word that you had a painful experience, and acknowledged that others have as well from the very beginning. What I don't accept is that your personal experience requires the experiences of others to be dismissed and discounted as illegitimate; by simple virtue of the fact that they're not your own. You're a pompous tool for thinking so.
Of course, you've been forced to change your tune now. Don't pretend your newly tweaked, ahem..."adjusted" claim has been the point you were arguing this entire time, though. There's nothing wrong with my memory, and I can read quite well. The lengths you've gone to in order to avoid actually admitting you were wrong are truly astonishing; A marvel to behold. It speaks volumes as to your actual motivations, and who you are as a person: Is there really any wonder why others find most of your arguments less than credible? You're pathological need to perceive yourself as being "correct" appears to the driving force that motivates your actions, and little else.
It clearly cripples your ability to form a reasonable argument, and consistently makes you the loser...Very sad, indeed.
You should seek help for that.
And btw, my absence from the forums had nothing do with you.
Hate to be the one to inform you, but you're not good enough to cause anyone to run off, Drich.
Sorry. You just aren't.
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