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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 8:33 am
I support the rational for invading *some* of Iraq. I really have no idea what you could possibly get out of afghanistan though... and if you were going to invade someplace... Saudi has some pretty significant oil fields I here. But don't open them immediately: let the price skyrocket, and make the bloody bank.
It's what every other such company is up to right now, no reason the government shouldn't get involved in it 
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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 10:54 am
(March 5, 2011 at 8:33 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: I support the rational for invading *some* of Iraq. I really have no idea what you could possibly get out of afghanistan though... and if you were going to invade someplace... Saudi has some pretty significant oil fields I here. But don't open them immediately: let the price skyrocket, and make the bloody bank.
It's what every other such company is up to right now, no reason the government shouldn't get involved in it
Quote:Afghanistan may have more than a trillion dollars worth of untapped mineral deposits,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10311752
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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Iraq was based on false premises ( outright lies, really) no conception of conditions on the ground, and no plan for what to do with the fucking place when we overran it....( we're very good at overrunning countries that can't fight back.) You cannot separate the military from the political because this was merely a political exercise. Besides, Iraq exposed the obvious weakness of American military power. We're only invincible when we're attacking. The rest of the time we are vulnerable to every towel head with an RPG.
"we are STILL in Germany, Japan and Korea..."
Yes, indeed. A whole other question that should be dealt with. I recall watching some sporting event not to long ago where the announcers said...with some oddly misplaced sense of pride..."our broadcast today is going to our armed forces in over 125 countries around the world." I recall thinking, "WTF do we have troops in 125 countries for?"
We could solve all of our budgetary issues by cutting the defense budget in half and we'd still be outspending the rest of the world.
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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 1:30 pm
(March 5, 2011 at 12:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The rest of the time we are vulnerable to every towel head with an RPG. That reminded me of a video I saw once. Here is the link:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8c4cfc9028
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This video is LIVE FOOTAGE of a real person being shot dead with messy closeups. The site is safe and it is not a download or popup, so its cool to go there unless you have a weak stomach or dont want to see someone get shot.
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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Gee...not at all like Hollywood where the body goes flying through the air!
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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 1:50 pm
(March 5, 2011 at 1:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Gee...not at all like Hollywood where the body goes flying through the air!
Yeah, in order to make a body fly through the air the one shooting the gun would have to fly backwards with as much momentum.
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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 3:41 pm
It's "Never get involved in a land war in Asia."
Probably amended because of places like Afghanistan.
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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 4:02 pm
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(March 5, 2011 at 12:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Iraq was based on false premises ( outright lies, really)
Exerpt from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nati...ution_1441...
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 is a United Nations Security Council resolution adopted unanimously by the United Nations Security Council on November 8, 2002, offering Iraq under Saddam Hussein "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations" that had been set out in several previous resolutions (Resolution 660, Resolution 661, Resolution 678, Resolution 686, Resolution 687, Resolution 688, Resolution 707, Resolution 715, Resolution 986, and Resolution 1284). [1]
Resolution 1441 stated that Iraq was in material breach of the ceasefire terms presented under the terms of Resolution 687. Iraq's breaches related not only to weapons of mass destruction (WMD), but also the known construction of prohibited types of missiles, the purchase and import of prohibited armaments, and the continuing refusal of Iraq to compensate Kuwait for the widespread looting conducted by its troops during the 1991 invasion and occupation. It also stated that "...false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq's obligations."
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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 4:24 pm
(March 5, 2011 at 3:41 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: It's "Never get involved in a land war in Asia."
Probably amended because of places like Afghanistan.
I have heard Afghanastan called "the destroyer of nations". Not because they go out and seek to destroy them, but that every nation who has tried to conquer them have wound up destroying themselves in the process.
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RE: Wisconsin Protests: State Police Pursue Democratic Lawmakers Boycotting Vote
March 5, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Azharrison Wrote:Where's the lie?
Perhaps in there actually having been no "Weapons of Mass Destruction"? Also, it is senseless to go to war out of anger or concern for the world at large... you will notice we don't attack north korea (which actually does have "weapons of mass destruction"). We attacked Iraq for oil, and not necessarily for the government. Anything less is a blatant lie.
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