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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 7, 2011 at 2:17 pm
A friend of mine brought this up some time ago. I find it extremely curious in that rape is clearly not the punchline here, in fact, it's periphery to everything else in the comic. Yes rape is horrible, that's why this guy wants to be rescued, nobody is laughing at rape. We're laughing because the hero is a douchebag.
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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 7, 2011 at 5:45 pm
We need another objectifying women thread for this, but I think we've lost all the members that could possibly keep us going for 70 some pages
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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 7, 2011 at 8:44 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2011 at 8:44 pm by Rev. Rye.)
Here's George Carlin's take on the subject:
http://video.yandex.ru/users/onsamyj/view/13/
I wish the full clip was on YouTube.
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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 8, 2011 at 4:40 am
Rape is just about power and control...alot like religion really...depends on which end of you is getting "raped"
"Rape survivors" pllllease!! yes it happens and it sucks big time (especially when you are 12 yo) but there DOES come a time when you have to get over it and move on. To wallow in self pity is to give into the rapist.
As for the cartoons?? They are just cartoons...nothing more. If you want to read REAL debauchery look into the Torah, Bible or Qur'an for blow by blow descriptions.
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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 8, 2011 at 5:13 am
Rape is also about sex, but that was a given i suspect
The bible is something I might expect a person high on psychedelics to write
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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 8, 2011 at 6:49 am
(March 8, 2011 at 5:13 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Rape is also about sex, but that was a given i suspect
The bible is something I might expect a person high on psychedelics to write
Inaccurate
Most rape is NOT just about sex (read fornication) although sex is used. It is about domination, control, fear, and the inadequacies of the offender not the victim.
To turn this around the "victim" must move on and not allow the rapist the satisfaction of dominance over them. So similar to religious organisations world wide.
As confusius say...
"When rape is inevitable...just lay back and enjoy it"
Then watch Mr rapist not be able to 'get it up'
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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 8, 2011 at 8:09 am
(March 8, 2011 at 6:49 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (March 8, 2011 at 5:13 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Rape is also about sex, but that was a given i suspect
The bible is something I might expect a person high on psychedelics to write
Inaccurate
Most rape is NOT just about sex (read fornication) although sex is used. It is about domination, control, fear, and the inadequacies of the offender not the victim.
To turn this around the "victim" must move on and not allow the rapist the satisfaction of dominance over them. So similar to religious organisations world wide.
Ever seen someone rape a couch?
I'm pretty sure the raping of sheep and other such 4-legged animals is much less common than the raping of human men, women, boys, girls, teens, whatnot. Reason? They are more sexually appealing.
Without a sex drive, rape would not occur. It is much more brutally satisfying to hit someone violently with a baseball bat repeatedly than it is to rape them... however: it is not very sexually satisfying to do so. I suppose a sadist might work in both when their sex drive comes a-calling.
Quote:As confusius say...
"When rape is inevitable...just lay back and enjoy it"
Then watch Mr rapist not be able to 'get it up'
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If you don't fight it, then it is simply all the easier for him/her. Given the prevalence of STIs, I for one am grossly unwilling to be raped by an absolute stranger.
Of corse, my manner of fighting back includes my cautionary mention of my syphilis. Not that I can even use that awesome rape-nullifier without an accompanying vagina
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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 9, 2011 at 7:33 am
Inaccurate again Sae....
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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 9, 2011 at 9:00 am
(March 9, 2011 at 7:33 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Inaccurate again Sae....
I really do not see how it is inaccurate to state that one's sex drive precludes all sexual actions they take, whether those actions be masturbation or rape.
Really, how can that become inaccurate? 0.o
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RE: Censorship, rape culture and free-speech
March 10, 2011 at 7:33 am
(March 9, 2011 at 9:00 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: (March 9, 2011 at 7:33 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Inaccurate again Sae....
I really do not see how it is inaccurate to state that one's sex drive precludes all sexual actions they take, whether those actions be masturbation or rape.
Really, how can that become inaccurate? 0.o
As bizzare as it sounds the whole sex act for some is ALL ABOUT POWER over some one. The ability to inflict fear, terror and pain on another is something that some humans get their 'jollies' from. So your asumption that the sex drive alone is the cause of rape is inaccurate because; in with all of that there are wife beatings, husband beatings, child abuse beatings, murders along with the whole religious ethos of 'Heap big man thng' and the 'puny little wife ownership' etc. In short I am of the opinion that while sex is used by many as a power trip (in all fairness not by just the males of our society, although they seem to be in the greater numbers)
Masterbation is a solitary act and involves the imagination only. (Yes I know props are also used) As a survivour of a child rape incident I can say that it is all about a pathetic insecure (and often religious)person having power and control over a perceived "weaker" individual. The only tool that works is to have the view that ...Yes the offender is the one with the problem, and to NOT linger too long in victimhood.
As you get older you will come across males who will "try it on over you" I am glad to think that they are in for one great big surprise...in as much as that.... you will probably FLATTEN them. (Puny Little Man things)
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