Trump versus Clinton?

[Minimalist]

The basics of farming are pretty simple, but that doesn't mean any idiot can be good at it.

You could be the best farmer the world ever saw.... and if you get too much rain or too little you are fucked and there isn't a thing you can do about it.

[Drich]

Trump could not beat any serious candidate in the general election. Why does anybody think the Republican party is freaking out?

"they" are freaking out because "they" do not have any say or control over trump. Trump marches to the beat of his own drummer.

[Minimalist]

When you're right, you're right, Drippy.  Notable because it doesn't happen often.

[The Grand Nudger]

It's also not what Marx and Engels had in mind. As usual, people lean on everyone's equal with equal pay and equal rights or obligations. That's what has been hammered into their heads for decades. But all they asked for was workers actually profiting from what they produce. Getting their fair share of the means of production. They also said that everyone should persue a career of their liking and do what they are best suited for. Total equality was never the goal.

Yeah, people have strange ideas about what was meant, or what was achieved, or even what was aimed for in that context.  All part of being used as boogeymen for a couple of generations, I guess.  Murica!

That goes into another aspect of the debate. Should compensation be reliant on the difficulty and knowledge requirements of a job? The physical or mental demands of the job? The job's role in allowing a stable, functional and advanced society to function?

I think we can all agree that a doctor is a more vital job than a burger flipper, overall, and deserves very good compensation, but should that mean the burger flipper doesn't deserve a living wage? That's not an argument that makes sense to me.

Me neither, and sometimes I think we've ignored some of those metrics you mentioned above (they should all be factored in).  I don't think that theres a job on this earth that doesn;t deserve a living wage.  If someone -truly- can't make a living wage doing what they do (or by being paid by their boss....and on this end I have strong suspicions that it;s an excuse to exploit)....then, flat out, we don't need to make that shit.  It's a net loss, it's worthless. It wastes our limited resources, it wastes our limited time, and it cheapens our limited lives.

Burger flippers, for example...are the profitable commodity in most fast food joints...not the burgers. That's some shady shit.

[Drich]

When you're right, you're right, Drippy.  Notable because it doesn't happen often.

I was going to ask how it felt being right for once, then you messed it all up with your second sentence.. Oh, well broken clocks and all...

[Minimalist]

Don't push your luck.

[Minimalist]

The latest idea floated by the republicunt hierarchy...

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-mulls-uni...akes-sense#

Enter the unity ticket: Rubio drops out of the race, and Cruz promises to make Rubio his running mate if Cruz becomes the GOP nominee. The pair then takes on Trump together, pooling supporters, donors, activists, and organizations.

And when I say "floated" think two turds in the same toilet.

[The Grand Nudger]

A Cruz/Rubio ticket...they think the republican masses will vote for that?  heh....hehehehehe....hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.  No. They have -royally- fucked themselves with the shit they've been pandering to.

[Drich]

That's insane. The primary appeal of Cruz is his 'outsider' status. Rubio is the establishment's candidate. That will only drive people to trump

[The Grand Nudger]

Ted Cruz is an outsider?  No.  The primary appeal, to replicunts, of Ted Cruz..... is that he's a white boy with an ethnic name, associated with Texas.