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Dr. Craig is a liar.
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#171
RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 12:33 am
(April 16, 2016 at 12:02 am)wiploc Wrote:
(April 7, 2016 at 1:04 pm)SteveII Wrote: It has not been shown he is lying.

It's a trilemma thing:  He makes patently bad arguments because,

1. He's too stupid to know better?
2. He's too ignorant to know better?  Or,
3. He does know better and he is guilty of deliberate misrepresentation. 

I believe that he is really smart, and quite knowledgeable.  I believe, therefore, that he is lying. 

I assume that he is sincere in his beliefs (whatever those quasi-Christian beliefs may be) but that his arguments supporting those beliefs are those of a mountebank, a flamboyant charlatan. 

> You misunderstood the context (there have been a couple of posts about that).

Care to elaborate?  

> He can't help the fact you can't follow him.

Ah, insult.  He may wish that I couldn't follow him.

WLC really throws out false facts ETC he know's he can't win a argument against science he throws out so many facts to were 
the debater would have to refute said things while trying to present a point to the audience he does this so it always make it look like
he came out on top this is why Richard Dawkin's would never debate the guy he would simply loose he nerves like he did
on the big think.
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#172
RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 9:59 am
I do like how a number of those who argued, that something could not always exist... without a cause; have switched to arguing that things can begin to exist without a cause.
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#173
RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 10:02 am
Citation? Or merely assertion?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 10:06 am
I'm comfortable, with assertion. If someone is interested, they can go and look for themselves, to see those arguing "nothing" as a cause.
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RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 10:14 am
Fine, then I'm comfortable with playing Hitchens' Razor.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 10:25 am
Ok.... Just making an observation.... people are free to go back and see if they agree, or not. I'm not really that concerned to play the sophism game.
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RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 10:38 am (This post was last modified: April 16, 2016 at 10:38 am by Cyberman.)
Then perhaps don't initiate the game? Especially when your hand is empty. Just a suggestion for the future.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#178
RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 10:43 am
Now... you are making the claim.... care to give citations.
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RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 10:46 am
If you are interested however, you can start here....

http://atheistforums.org/thread-42435-po...pid1239552
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RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 16, 2016 at 10:48 am
Citation 1:

(April 16, 2016 at 9:59 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I do like how a number of those who argued, that something could not always exist... without a cause; have switched to arguing that things can begin to exist without a cause.

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(April 16, 2016 at 10:06 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I'm comfortable, with assertion. If someone is interested, they can go and look for themselves, to see those arguing "nothing" as a cause.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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