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The main reason I'm an atheist
RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 17, 2016 at 3:22 pm)Red_Wind Wrote:
(April 17, 2016 at 12:28 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: It's hopeless.  Still not a single research study.  No links, no citations, just a bunch of mental masturbation.  You're going back on ignore, Sicky Rikky.  My stupid woo meter has pegged again.

I'm wondering when he's going to get banned, he's been derailing the topic for a while now.



Don't act as a clown Wind.
If you are really interested in see derailments you should go in my previous forum (atheism the unscientific belief) and see how many times people derailed the topic.

Get real son.  Wink  Smile  Wink

I never did complain about it so get lost and stop being an hypocrite.  Lightbulb
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
Seriously, can someone explain to this evolutionary biologist... what the fuck is this "Darwin evolution" that Sick Rik keeps rambling on about?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 15, 2016 at 10:41 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(April 14, 2016 at 4:13 pm)RozKek Wrote: I never said NDEs aren't real, I said that there is nothing miraculous, special, holy or immaterial about them and they only originate in the brain, and I provided a link which provides scientific explanations to what causes them.


Roz.  Hi

You read hundreds of NDEs experiences and each and everyone of them tell you the opposite.
They all say that the brain is 100% OFF during that time and the consciousness is 100% ON.
Go and ask your expert whether they ever had an NDE.
They did not so how they suppose to be expert then?

http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/...counts.htm



Quote:I say consciousness arises from the chemical reactions in your brain because it's crystal clear that other chemicals (e.g drugs, medicines, foods, beaverages etc) can heavily affect disturb/change the chemical reactions occuring in your brain and by doing that also affecting your counciousness. Also you can't render someone uncounscious by punching their toes, but if you hit them on the neck, the skull, the jaw you can knock someone uncounscious because those areas have stronger connections to the brain. Or as an example when the brain doesn't get enough oxygen you go uncounscious. If those few points aren't evidence that consciousness does arise from the brain then they are at least strong suggestions. And you got nothing to support your claim that the human body is made out of consciousness or w/e you said and your claim that consciousness/the mind is seperate from the brain isn't supported either. And if you post some sources, please post some reliable sources not sources like "www.openyerbrein.batshit" whom are very biased.
Also your conscious state correlates with neural activity in the brain (correct me if I am wrong).


Life is such that there got to exist a parallelism among body-brain-mind and consciousness.
When this parallelism doesn't exist anymore then the body die.
There is no evidence that the I or consciousness die as well.
In fact there is evidence for the opposite as NDEs show us.

It is obvious that if a brick fall on the head each and everyone of the components of ourselves will
notice the event and in many cases our body die.
That is natural but nobody so far produce any evidence that when the body die everything die.


Quote:Also I checked up Sam Parnia and he most likely is the "best expert" in the "field" because not many others take NDEs as seriously as other subjects. Also most of his beliefs/views are rejected by the majority of scientists so I doubt that he's something special.
[source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Parnia] I got that information from wikipedia although my first sentence: "Also I checked up Sam Parnia and he most likely is the best expert in the field because not many others take NDEs as seriously as other subjects." is mostly an assumption but very likely. I doubt many scientists research NDEs relatively speaking.


I already explain you that everybody here suggest me to see Dr. Parnia report and so i did.
His conclusions were very clear.
NO YES NO NO so he concluded nothing.


Quote:Regarding your last sentence, what have you been smoking? Wacky
I understand that wanting to believe in eternal bliss, an afterlife and such can be comforting, but I'll stick to what science shows, not what I want to believe, and I like to avoid pseudoscience.
Quote:Hopefully you don't.




Have a good day.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON'T use biased sources. We can continue when you provide me some reliable sources.

Also the last 2 paragraphs that you quoted, why does it seem like you're trying to make me encourage pseudoscience? I never said "hopefully you don't avoid pseudoscience". Correct me if I'm wrong but you just cut it to seem like it.
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
........THIS thread's gotten carrrazzzy, yo! Wacky Why him Levitate like emoji SOOOOO many's......for realsie?Huh
Why IS........that Huh  is the IN surpa durp......{SIC} I'm like Hulk reading Read........Arrgghh    

Please, dude. Don't make me Throw Computer........You likeCookieYES?????  

So very much, so.......SILLY HEAD!!!!!!...... Doh  What you Demon..... not getting at, Bro?
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The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 18, 2016 at 8:45 pm)Thena323 Wrote: ........THIS thread's gotten carrrazzzy, yo! Wacky Why him Levitate like emoji SOOOOO many's......for realsie?Huh
Why IS........that Huh  is the IN surpa durp......{SIC} I'm like Hulk reading Read........Arrgghh    

Please, dude. Don't make me Throw Computer........You likeCookieYES?????  

So very much, so.......SILLY HEAD!!!!!!...... Doh  What you Demon..... not getting at, Bro?


LMAO!!! [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
I was about to suggest a thread consisting of nothing but emojis, but anything with rikky in it is already one.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 18, 2016 at 11:57 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Seriously, can someone explain to this evolutionary biologist... what the fuck is this "Darwin evolution" that Sick Rik keeps rambling on about?


Me rambling on?  Huh

Not at all Rock.  Tut Tut
All i do is referring to the comments that atheists make abut evolution.  Worship

Almost every time i talk about evolution atheists come up with the origin of the species
as the only evolution that they know. Banging Head On Desk

And guess what Rock?  Think

Someone called Darwin came up with this sort of idea.  Indubitably

So please blame these atheists not me.  Thanks
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
Little Rik, can you provide an example of one of us atheists doing that in this thread?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
Of course he can't. All he can do is bloviate.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
(April 18, 2016 at 12:07 pm)RozKek Wrote:
(April 15, 2016 at 10:41 am)Little Rik Wrote: Roz.  Hi

You read hundreds of NDEs experiences and each and everyone of them tell you the opposite.
They all say that the brain is 100% OFF during that time and the consciousness is 100% ON.
Go and ask your expert whether they ever had an NDE.
They did not so how they suppose to be expert then?

http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/...counts.htm





Life is such that there got to exist a parallelism among body-brain-mind and consciousness.
When this parallelism doesn't exist anymore then the body die.
There is no evidence that the I or consciousness die as well.
In fact there is evidence for the opposite as NDEs show us.

It is obvious that if a brick fall on the head each and everyone of the components of ourselves will
notice the event and in many cases our body die.
That is natural but nobody so far produce any evidence that when the body die everything die.




I already explain you that everybody here suggest me to see Dr. Parnia report and so i did.
His conclusions were very clear.
NO YES NO NO so he concluded nothing.






Have a good day.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON'T use biased sources. We can continue when you provide me some reliable sources.

Also the last 2 paragraphs that you quoted, why does it seem like you're trying to make me encourage pseudoscience? I never said "hopefully you don't avoid pseudoscience". Correct me if I'm wrong but you just cut it to seem like it.


Roooooooooooooooooooz.  Hi

You want evidence?
In this case you will have to wait until the day you will leave your body.
That day it all will appear very clear to you.
Or maybe not.
Everything will appear dark.
Or maybe not.
Everything is gone, you are gone.
You will not know that you are gone for ever.

Unfortunately this universe does not provide evidence for anything at all.  Indubitably
The reality is not here.
It can not possibly be in a space in which everything move and change by the second.
The real reality can not be affected by time and space.
It never change but why you worry so much anyway?
Just live your life and see what the future will bring.
You never know.  Smile
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