OP/ED RANT... "You live in your parent's basment"

[Brian37]

RANT MODE ON.....

"The basement argument"........ 

Ok, this is the bullshit pejorative slur used when someone doesn't like the argument or blasphemy of the other. "You must live in your parent's basement" since I don't agree with you. Now, I have seen this BULLSHIT argument used by BOTH atheists and theists, and even with political and economic views. AND IN ALL DIRECTIONS......... FUCKING KNOCK IT OFF.......How someone gets, their bills paid, or where they live is none of your fucking business unless you are directly involved in the relationship. If you are arguing religion, then stick to the topic. If you are arguing economics stick to the topic. But, I will not put up with EITHER theists or atheists demonizing someone one like this. BOTH ATHEISTS AND THEISTS........



Where someone lives or what their class is, has nothing to do with if they are right or wrong. What matters is the topic and the facts they have to back up their claims, not their living habits. (END RANT)

[abaris]

I virtually did for about a decade. In a small apartment actually. When my parents got feeble and I cared for them in their final years. Ruined my own career and my outlook on ever making some serious buck, since I quit a well paying job as an editor in chief to work as a freelancer. And now, in my 50ies, I'm damaged goods, ready for the big garbage pile of human economy.

[JesusHChrist]

Well, for a good long while, I lived in a basement, but it was MY basement, paid for 100% by me.

Divorce in a down real estate market, causes unusual living situations. Not all basement dwellers are yelling upstairs to their mom to bring down "MEATLOAF! NOW!!!" Many maybe... I provided my own meatloaf thank you very much.

But I agree with your rant. Most any basement-shaming pejorative is just an ad hom and not addressing the argument at hand.

[Brian37]

I virtually did for about a decade. In a small apartment actually. When my parents got feeble and I cared for them in their final years. Ruined my own career and my outlook on ever making some serious buck, since I quit a well paying job as an editor in chief to work as a freelancer. And now, in my 50ies, I'm damaged goods, ready for the big garbage pile of human economy.

That's the thing, it still should not matter if someone does not move up the economic ladder. We already find it acceptable for a woman to stay at home and be financially supported. I don't like gender rolls at all. 

Now that also is not saying "everyone be poor to prove themselves"...... The point is an economy will always have 3 classes in the west, and that is a good thing, but at the same time, there WILL be, some who get to the top, some who make it to the middle and some who never move from the bottom. 

What does matter is that more people are STABLE no matter where they end up.

I don't hate all wealth, nor do I hate someone merely for having more than I do. I still believe that the more educated and economically stable more people are, the better the society is as a whole. There is ROOM for everyone, but no room for our current plutocracy.

But both with religion and economics, you are either right or wrong. There are poor people who vote republican too, so making it a class issue is fucking stupid. There are rich liberals too. 

There are poor right wing Christians and poor liberal Christians. There are middle class right wing Christians and Liberal middle class Christians. There are rich right wing Christians and rich liberal Christians. But there are also poor atheists, like me, I'd also bet some of them are economically right. I am sure there are middle class Trump voting atheists, just like their are middle class Bernie and Hillary atheists supporters. Penn is a rich atheists, but I don't agree with him on his economics, even though we agree on social issues. 

That is why when it comes to religion or economics, where someone lives isn't the fucking issue. And especially if you are not in the relationship, you have no damned say in any case. 

It amounts to demagoguery of the poor especially, but demagoguery of anyone who questions the power of the upper class.

[Brian37]

Well, for a good long while, I lived in a basement, but it was MY basement, paid for 100% by me.

Divorce in a down real estate market, causes unusual living situations. Not all basement dwellers are yelling upstairs to their mom to bring down "MEATLOAF! NOW!!!" Many maybe... I provided my own meatloaf thank you very much.

But I agree with your rant. Most any basement-shaming pejorative is just an ad hom and not addressing the argument at hand.

Why should I care even if someone was paying your bills for you? To me, it is a matter of consent, not your gender, and if you are supported, that is one less unstable person society has to worry about. And if you are having your needs met, paying your own bills or someone else paying them, either way, that means less dependency or no dependency on government, and that is a benefit to all tax payers.

[thesummerqueen]

I reserve the right to call someone a mom's basement dweller when they act in misogynistic, sexist, and otherwise twatty hateful ways.

[JesusHChrist]

Why should I care even if someone was paying your bills for you?

You sound like my ex-wife.

[Crossless2.0]

I reserve the right to call someone a mom's basement dweller when they act in misogynistic, sexist, and otherwise twatty hateful ways.

I'll add that if their every post screams "Rupert Pupkin"-delusions of grandeur (or even undemonstrated adequacy), I'll pull the basement dweller card.

[Brian37]

I reserve the right to call someone a mom's basement dweller when they act in misogynistic, sexist, and otherwise twatty hateful ways.

I fail to see how someone lives has to do with being an asshole, assholes come in all classes. Ted Cruz has had an asshole gay basher call for the death of gays introduce him in his run for president. I am sure that asshole doesn't live in a basement. 

Trump has called Mexicans rapists, made issues of women's periods and called Vets losers. That douchebag also doesn't live in a basement.

[thesummerqueen]

I reserve the right to call someone a mom's basement dweller when they act in misogynistic, sexist, and otherwise twatty hateful ways.

I fail to see how someone lives has to do with being an asshole, assholes come in all classes. Ted Cruz has had an asshole gay basher call for the death of gays introduce him in his run for president. I am sure that asshole doesn't live in a basement. 

Trump has called Mexicans rapists, made issues of women's periods and called Vets losers. That douchebag also doesn't live in a basement.

Mostly because I already treat people the way you're ranting for right now. I don't give a fuck how you decide to live your life. But if you're going to be a fedora tipping cunt flap, I'm pretty sure the mom's basement taunt is going to come out.

People live with their parents for all kinds of reasons and I'm well aware of that - my ex did for some time before we moved in together because he was saving for a house. Some people do to take care of relatives. Some people do because they're hiding from abusive ex's.

It's not about disagreeing with someone's policies. It's about when they turn into douchecopters because you aren't paying their penis the respect they think it deserves.