Evidence for atheist claims

[Little Rik]

Brain dead people are conscious and have access to the "real reality"?  News to me.  Have you alerted the medical community?  That might be important to them (particularly their lawyers and insurers).

Son.  

What is new to you today will become obvious the day you will stop fantasize that the universal body can run without a mind.
Have you ever seen a body wondering around without a head stuck to his body?  

Let me know if you have.  
In this case you should alert the medical community, lawyers and insurers.  

[vorlon13]

Brain dead people are conscious and have access to the "real reality"?  News to me.  Have you alerted the medical community?  That might be important to them (particularly their lawyers and insurers).

Son.  

What is new to you today will become obvious the day you will stop fantasize that the universal body can run without a mind.
Have you ever seen a body wondering around without a head stuck to his body?  

Let me know if you have.  
In this case you should alert the medical community, lawyers and insurers.  

I recall the catholic saint who was beheaded for his faith, and then reached down and picked up his head and kissed it on the lips before he died.

[Little Rik]

Son.  

What is new to you today will become obvious the day you will stop fantasize that the universal body can run without a mind.
Have you ever seen a body wondering around without a head stuck to his body?  

Let me know if you have.  
In this case you should alert the medical community, lawyers and insurers.  

I recall the catholic saint who was beheaded for his faith, and then reached down and picked up his head and kissed it on the lips before he died.

You don't have to be a saint to be able to do that.  
Even Dynamo can do that.  
You never thought about that Vor, did you?  

[ignoramus]

Real Reality?! WTF is a false reality then?
Rikky, no need to answer .... really really.

[Simon Moon]

Son.  

What is new to you today will become obvious the day you will stop fantasize that the universal body can run without a mind.
Have you ever seen a body wondering around without a head stuck to his body?  

Let me know if you have.  
In this case you should alert the medical community, lawyers and insurers.  

I recall the catholic saint who was beheaded for his faith, and then reached down and picked up his head and kissed it on the lips before he died.

Seriously?

Do  you recall this from your personal experience, or from a story you once heard?

By the way, how did he kiss his decapitated head? Where did he get the extra set of lips?

[Angrboda]

In the NDEs all those recollection of events may be different in situations in which these people went through their NDE but they all experience a mighty presence that they describe as God.
They all understand that reincarnation is real.
They all experience a wonderful place which they regret very much to leave.
They all fear death no more.
In fact they all wait with eagerness to go back in this beautiful place.
None of them saw the devil or hell.

After an attempted suicide, John Bunyan (1628-1688) was given an extended guided tour of hell containing all the traditional images of fire, brimstone, devils, tormentors, etc.

http://www.near-death.com/science/research/hell.html

So once again you're making up an idealized version of the truth. Your account of NDEs is bogus.

[The Grand Nudger]

Son.  

What is new to you today will become obvious the day you will stop fantasize that the universal body can run without a mind.

When did I start fantasizing that, precisely, lol?

 
Have you ever seen a body wondering around without a head stuck to his body?

LOL, not a human one...

Let me know if you have.  
In this case you should alert the medical community, lawyers and insurers.  

After I'm done shooting at it (just in case)...I probably would.  

That was fun, but......again, if you can show that brain-dead people are conscious and have access to the "real reality", AF.com probably isn't the place to let that pearl of insight languish.

[vorlon13]

I recall the catholic saint who was beheaded for his faith, and then reached down and picked up his head and kissed it on the lips before he died.

Seriously?

Do  you recall this from your personal experience, or from a story you once heard?

By the way, how did he kiss his decapitated head? Where did he get the extra set of lips?

[Little Rik]

In the NDEs all those recollection of events may be different in situations in which these people went through their NDE but they all experience a mighty presence that they describe as God.
They all understand that reincarnation is real.
They all experience a wonderful place which they regret very much to leave.
They all fear death no more.
In fact they all wait with eagerness to go back in this beautiful place.
None of them saw the devil or hell.

After an attempted suicide, John Bunyan (1628-1688) was given an extended guided tour of hell containing all the traditional images of fire, brimstone, devils, tormentors, etc.

http://www.near-death.com/science/research/hell.html

So once again you're making up an idealized version of the truth.  Your account of NDEs is bogus.

You never change yog, do you?  

As usual you make a fool of yourself.  

Hell is a state of mind but this state can and will one day have to change because nobody like
to live in such a state.
The only permanent thing is the cosmic mind behind this illusion but let us come to your hell.
Once you leave your dead body (when you die so to speak) you can not possibly end up in an hell in which you suffer physically.
You only have YOU your consciousness.
The old body has been left behind to rot so how can you possibly feel physical pain?
It is your story that is bogus therefore.
In the after life there is no such a thing as a tormentor.
If you done something wrong in your life it is you that may torment yourself and therefore
it is a state of mind.
When you realize how pure and full of love this place is and at the same time you realize how
bad you are you suffer.
This suffering is caused by you not by a tormentor.
However through the reincarnation you can sort out your problems and at the end everything will be fine.

Wrong once again yog.  

[IATIA]

And your proof is? Have you died and seen this for a fact?