Atheists and Retards

[LadyForCamus]

You know, you lot could save yourselves a ton of time and type if you'd just make your first post, 'Hi! I'm a sock of __________. Please ban me immediately!'

Boru

If ONLY we would be so lucky...

[Thumpalumpacus]

Thump ...you can't win matey... If you stoop to their level of stupid, they will beat you with experience...

Oh, I'm not trying to "win". I'm giving fair warning that I won't play the game of taking this twatwaffle seriously at all.

[Ravenshire]

I think this one's a Catholic. They're the ones who're usually addicted to the idea that we suffer in order to learn how to be godly.

While "Poe's Law" is always in effect, I'm pretty sure this one is the real deal. The mimicry of the Christian programmed-thinking language is too perfect.

Im not a Roman Catholic. I am a Christian and I only believe in the Bible. Not Popes, not Mary, not praying to the dead or "Earning your way to heaven." We are saved by Jesus' love and nothing else.

Still Roman Catholics have something of the spirit of Christ with them. That Pope of theirs seems like a nice guy!

Im talking about my own life. When things get tough, I tend to focus on God more. Thats all.

Then your focus is misplaced. You should be focusing on the things making life tough so you can combat them or work your way around them.

As to your OP, atheists do not have any agreed upon position on any subject outside the existence of gods.

Personally, I think screening for genetic abnormalities is a fucking fantastic thing. It give the parents plenty of advance notice if their child is going to have special needs and/or time to decide to end the pregnancy if they feel they are unable to deal with those needs or if the suffering of the child will be too great.

On your comment about suffering: Most people understand that pain and suffering are part of life and accept it. What I (and many of the atheists here) take umbrage at is not pain and suffering, but the level of unnecessary pain and suffering in a world that asshats like you claim was created by an omniscient, omnipotent being.

As long as birth control is less than 100% effective and debilitating genetic conditions are a threat, abortion will continue to be a necessary evil.

You on the other hand, have no right telling others what they can and can't do. Get over yourself.

Troll.

[CapnAwesome]

I was just wondering, about the atheist opinion on retards.

From what I have heard, atheists do not care for retards or people with disabilities generally.

I know this because many of the babies in the wombs of non-believing women end up being aborted just for being retarded. Why do you think you see so few mongoloids anymore? Its because doctors can now take a picture of a womans womb and know if the baby is a mongoloid or not. If it is, it sadly ends up getting chopped up .

I don't understand that impulse. I believe everyone is worthy of love and affection even if they are different.

What do you think about retards and are they worthwhile people?

Well we manage to interact with you well enough.

[Ravenshire]

Without legal abortion, illegal abortion would come back with all the horrors that brought.

Can you give me some statistics on illegal abortions? I understand the whole "coathanger thing" was a myth.

Look at the countries where abortion is illegal. how many illegal abortions are there?

Also, if there were some risk to the mom's life in kiling her baby (whether through infection or whatever) it might make her wise up, and think ( in a selfish way of course) "I don't wanna die/get injured.. Id better bear and love this baby as my lord asks me to!"

Also, with all these women getting abortions.... Have they never heard of adoption??

Another thing.... whenever someone argues for protecting the unborn someone always brings up the example of "well what about some teenager who is raped?"

I think it should be allowed in that instance and think its a hideous circumstance. But let's be realistic. Far and away most of the time women seeking abortions aren't doing it because of that. Why don't liberals admit, that very often, perhaps even most of the time it is women who conceived after they forgot to take the pill, after the condom broke, or for some other reason, that they were unable to escape the consequences of their "screw everyone but me" hard partying life style?

Half the single mothers are such because of a simple lack of self control. Anyway, should we really encourage such a "consequence free" lifestyle? Instead of our politicians caving into this spirit, they should have the courage to say "You brought this burden on yourself. You bear it."

After reading these sentiments, I've concluded that the only rational response to you is a hearty "go fuck yourself."

Fucking troll.

[Silver]

Children are already enough of a burden with which to deal.

Mentally disabled children would naturally be more of a burden.

I see nothing wrong with a woman deciding what she wishes to do with her body. If she does not want to deal with taking care of a child, that is her choice, no matter whether the child will be born normal or mentally disabled.

However, science making the advancements in determining what mental capacities or disabilities will be prevalent from the fetal state at least allows the woman to have further control over her body.

Far be it for me to tell any woman what to do.

If she wants to make her life harder by taking care of a mentally disabled child, that is her choice. It is also the woman's choice to abort for whatever reason.

[Excited Penguin]

Why are you referring to anyone as retard? What is wrong with you?

Why not?

[Ravenshire]

I'm going to use the term correctly so you can see it in context. You're a fucking retard.

My my my. Someone sounds like she was brought up to be barnyard white trash!

Trolling and reported as such.

Have a nice, hopefully very short, visit.

[Ravenshire]

I need a straight answer.

As a Christian I think the retarded are to be loved and cherished, and think its horrific that a woman would think of aborting her retard baby.

What do you all as atheists believe?

You've been given straight answers. Get bent.

[Ravenshire]

As an atheist, I'm not convinced that theists have net their burden of proof regarding god claims. That's the only platform on which I stand as far as my atheism goes.

As a person, I think that everyone has a basic intrinsic level of societal acceptance and value. I also think that a woman has the right to decide what happens to her reproductive system.

Straight enough for you?

So you think a woman should murder her baby if it's retarded. Got it.

What do you think of parents killing their kids once out of the womb? Kids do affect a woman's choices

Why don't you accept his answer as stated instead of twisting it to fit your agenda?