Posts: 3247
Threads: 179
Joined: April 29, 2012
Reputation:
24
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 3:18 pm
(June 9, 2016 at 3:07 pm)robvalue Wrote: What happens when two groups of people pray for mutually exclusive outcomes?
The universe splits in two, both sides are happy in their half
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.
Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups
Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!
Posts: 69247
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation:
259
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 3:24 pm
(June 9, 2016 at 3:18 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: (June 9, 2016 at 3:07 pm)robvalue Wrote: What happens when two groups of people pray for mutually exclusive outcomes?
The universe splits in two, both sides are happy in their half
Sometimes.
Sometimes, not so much.
Posts: 43162
Threads: 720
Joined: September 21, 2008
Reputation:
133
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 5:12 pm
(June 9, 2016 at 2:26 pm)Losty Wrote: (June 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You're embarrassing yourself, G-C.
Adults don't have invisible friends.
I am not a child! Carl is a real guy! He got drunk and pissed in my back yard once. I can't help if I talk to him when he's not there.
I can testify to this. I was a witness.
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 5:17 pm
(June 9, 2016 at 2:22 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (June 9, 2016 at 1:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: Prayer is far more than asking things from God, it's one way of being in a relationship with Him. Yes God already knows the needs of everyone, our asking shows that we care for them even though God knew before hand. Don't you talk to your friends about things they already knew about, it's no different with God.
LOL... Your friends make you beg for help, even when they know perfectly well, that you need it? On one hand - I'm not surprised, since they're probably self-interested, sanctimonious douche-bags, with morality standards of goat-herding barbarians... I mean - christians. On the other hand - wow, sucks to be you. No wonder you prefer hanging out with atheists...
Your humanity is about the size of your avatar.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 43162
Threads: 720
Joined: September 21, 2008
Reputation:
133
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 5:22 pm
(June 9, 2016 at 1:24 pm)Losty Wrote: (June 9, 2016 at 8:16 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Has anyone ever thought about prayer boxes? Does God not listen unless multiple people pester it about the exact same issue? Or is it that prayer is more effective if it's conducted by higher ranking Theists in the community? Very curious to hear the rationale.
Supposedly prayers are better with two or more people. I don't remember why. I've never seen it to be true. Generally the worst off someone is health wise the more people they have praying for them. But they still die more than the healthier people with less prayers. Fancy that.
I have heard that because hope is good for mental health and stress, despair and being mentally unhealthy negatively impacts physical health: the more people praying for you when you might die from something the less likely you are to survive: But only if you know the people are praying for you. There were actually scientific studies on that. It's referenced in The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.
So, if anything prayer is actually bad for you. But only if you know people are praying for you.
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 5:31 pm
(June 9, 2016 at 3:04 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Well I was hoping that some Theists would explain why they get other people to pray for them. Their god can do anything so it doesn't make sense to me that you would need more than one person to pray for something. If you were in a coma I could understand, but if you're able bodied then you don't need other people to pray for you.
God responds to those who care for others, like I stated earlier prayer is part of the relationship with God, when God hears the prayers of many for the one it brings Him joy. Now does this mean God will answer the pray as it was prayed maybe, maybe not, it's answered according to God's will and providence.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 5:34 pm
(June 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You're embarrassing yourself, G-C.
Adults don't have invisible friends.
Well I'm your invisible friend and you talk to me.... usually to much.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 5:38 pm
(June 9, 2016 at 5:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You're embarrassing yourself, G-C.
Adults don't have invisible friends.
Well I'm your invisible friend and you talk to me.... usually to much.
GC
Woah, you're invisible? That's fuckin awesome. I wish I had a super power!
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 43162
Threads: 720
Joined: September 21, 2008
Reputation:
133
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 6:00 pm
Anyone on AF with an asterisk next to their name is invisible xD
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: is collective prayer any more effective?
June 9, 2016 at 6:06 pm
(June 9, 2016 at 6:00 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Anyone on AF with an asterisk next to their name is invisible xD
Woah!
I'm invisible too. I wonder how come no one has ever told me D:
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
|