Posts: 11260
Threads: 61
Joined: January 5, 2013
Reputation:
123
RE: Curious to know
June 19, 2016 at 11:32 pm
(June 19, 2016 at 10:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: Suppose some respected member of this forum had an NDE.
After that they come back here on the forum telling that God exist.
Would you believe them and give up atheism or no thinking that they just had
some sort of hallucination? 
Hi, respected member of the forum here! I had an NDE recently, and though I didn't see any god, I did gain a perfect understanding of the universe and its origins, and I can tell you with certainty, from the other side, that absolutely no gods were involved!
Do you believe me?
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Curious to know
June 19, 2016 at 11:35 pm
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 11260
Threads: 61
Joined: January 5, 2013
Reputation:
123
RE: Curious to know
June 20, 2016 at 12:06 am
Do not defile these boards with Smash Mouth, young lady! 
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!
Posts: 32878
Threads: 1409
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
152
RE: Curious to know
June 20, 2016 at 12:10 am
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Curious to know
June 20, 2016 at 12:11 am
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 29107
Threads: 218
Joined: August 9, 2014
Reputation:
155
RE: Curious to know
June 20, 2016 at 12:29 am
(This post was last modified: June 20, 2016 at 12:34 am by robvalue.)
We all know, and Rik has acknowledged in the past, that brains can produce experiences which aren't real.
Why exactly is this any different? Why would you assume something as bizarre and vague as "God" as a starting point and expect people to prove you wrong? The starting point is "we don't know". Brains producing weird shit under extreme stress is a very simple and reasonable explanation, one which is backed by evidence.
I could hold a similarly absurd position that dreams all actually happen, and invite people to prove me wrong. All it shows is I don't understand how evidence works.
And again, you can have a NDE that doesn't (in reality) involve anything to do with the supposed supernatural. I think Rik believes a NDE is by definition some sort of interaction with the spirit realm. It isn't. The fact that so many people interpret it that way is irrelevant. If that is what Rik means by a NDE, he needs to use another term.
Posts: 35273
Threads: 204
Joined: August 13, 2012
Reputation:
146
RE: Curious to know
June 20, 2016 at 12:35 am
(June 20, 2016 at 12:06 am)Esquilax Wrote: Do not defile these boards with Smash Mouth, young lady!
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
Posts: 35273
Threads: 204
Joined: August 13, 2012
Reputation:
146
RE: Curious to know
June 20, 2016 at 12:38 am
(June 19, 2016 at 11:32 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (June 19, 2016 at 10:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: Suppose some respected member of this forum had an NDE.
After that they come back here on the forum telling that God exist.
Would you believe them and give up atheism or no thinking that they just had
some sort of hallucination?
Hi, respected member of the forum here! I had an NDE recently, and though I didn't see any god, I did gain a perfect understanding of the universe and its origins, and I can tell you with certainty, from the other side, that absolutely no gods were involved!
Do you believe me?
Respected??
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
Posts: 23002
Threads: 26
Joined: February 2, 2010
Reputation:
106
RE: Curious to know
June 20, 2016 at 1:42 am
(June 20, 2016 at 12:29 am)robvalue Wrote: I could hold a similarly absurd position that dreams all actually happen [...]
Am I a man dreaming I'm a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming I'm a man?
Posts: 20476
Threads: 447
Joined: June 16, 2014
Reputation:
111
RE: Curious to know
June 20, 2016 at 2:17 am
(This post was last modified: June 20, 2016 at 2:18 am by ignoramus.)
Rik, I know for a fact that I'm reincarnated as the original person who entered my baby body was thinking perfectly as an adult.
I myself, do not believe it! And it happened to me! Why should I believe what someone else says?
The mind is a powerful thing, try using it sceptically once in a while.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
|
I'm sorry 
