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UK to leave EU
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:07 pm (This post was last modified: June 27, 2016 at 2:07 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
If Trump wins are we can't veto this Brexshit shit I'll move to Scotland ASAP.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:12 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 2:07 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: If Trump wins are we can't veto this Brexshit shit I'll move to Scotland ASAP.

Well the future PM Boris has already said there's 'no real appetite' (rofl guy's a troll) to a Scottish referendum. Don't think they're having one mate.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:13 pm
Well if they don't I'll just so whatever is the least shit.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:20 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 2:06 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(June 27, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: @ Napo

Considering the economic experts think the economy is negatively affected by Brexit I doubt you're able to predict that we'll be better off economically in 10-20 years due to Brexshit.

Well I can look at Europe's "successes" over the last 40 years and make a judgement call. Mediterranean countries destroyed by the single currency. Lower and lower share of global GDP. The slowest growth of any large market in the world. Countries going bankrupt and us having to bail them out. Huge amounts of debt. Deflation. High unemployment. 

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-has-shrun...d-economy/
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-...nd_finance
http://www.worldeconomics.com/papers/Com...b048.paper
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econo...harts.html

Is staying in really the only option?

Almost missed this.

Do you think your own cherry picking is superior to the economic experts' assessments on the matter?
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:22 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 1:46 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
(June 27, 2016 at 1:31 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Somehow, such reassurances are pretty meaningless coming from a group who don't even have a fucking plan in place.

It was hard not to laugh when I saw Boris Johnson's entire speech was about "at least we're offering hope" as if hope is a good thing when it's false and in fact going to do more damage than good?

Seriously people would rather any answer than no answer. It's the same reason so many people in this world prefer "Goddidit" to "We don't know yet."

This sums it up perfectly... politician's logic:



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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:23 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 1:55 pm)abaris Wrote: What happens in 10 or 20 years time will be subject to so many factors that noone in their right mind can make any prediction.

This.

Even the economic experts don't know that. This "all's well that ends well" attitude to fucking the economy over does no good when no one fucking knows how it ends but it sure as hell is fucking crystal clear that here and now things are fucked.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:23 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Do you think your own cherry picking is superior to the economic experts' assessments on the matter?

What part was cherry picked? The part where Greece has gone bankrupt? The part where global GDP has dwindled? What?
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:24 pm
EXACTLY Squishy. Doing the wrong thing is worse than doing nothing... but not according to Boris motherfucking Johnson.
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:30 pm (This post was last modified: June 27, 2016 at 2:39 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(June 27, 2016 at 2:23 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(June 27, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Do you think your own cherry picking is superior to the economic experts' assessments on the matter?

What part was cherry picked? The part where Greece has gone bankrupt? The part where global GDP has dwindled? What?

I mean confirmation bias. The EU isn't all bad but you've selected -- cherry picked out -- some bad parts.

My primary criticism is this: What makes you think your assessment is superior to the assessment made by expert economists?
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RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 2:57 pm
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