Is white privilege real? To what extent?

[paulpablo]

I said non minorities are privileged then Matilda corrected me by saying actually women are a majority but not necessarily privileged.

So saying I don't get it after I've already discussed this topic and the ins and outs of majority privilege is pretty ignorant or just a false assumption or both.

Being white is being a non-minority that is almost always privileged. So white privilege is very real in this world.

I'm saying you don't get it because it still seems you deny white privilege which is patently real.

Deny to what extent?

[thesummerqueen]

You started the thread with your question already answered in your head...that basically people need to stop complaining about how easy whites got it, even though they do seem to have it easy.

We're aware.

[The Grand Nudger]

So why resist when that opinion is fed back to you?  Saying that you think it exists is lip service that you're paying...your comments plainly lay out the case...such as it is, for why you think it doesn't.  

Asians exist.
Dictionaries.
White bashing.  

What's the problem?  That it sounds so godamned silly when someone else says it.................? 

[paulpablo]

You started the thread with your question already answered in your head...that basically people need to stop complaining about how easy whites got it, even though they do seem to have it easy.

We're aware.

Not already answered.

It's common practise on this forum to create threads asking for opinions while giving your own at the start of the thread, but you already know this.

[Losty]

Actually, you created a thread centered around limp wristedly denying that white privilege exists: because asians, and calling recognition of the phenomena racist white-bashing.  

Somewhere, due to this, an alt right dipshit got his wings.

Am I typing through a filter where what I say gets reversed at the other end?

Creating a thread about white privilege means I don't want to talk about it.

I say in the first post that I think white privilege exists to an extent and I'm therefore denying the existence of white privilege.

Your whole point, as far as I can tell, in this thread has been to cry about how people shouldn't call it white privilege because it's not only white people or all white people who have privileges. And who cares if white privilege is real because we should be talking about all privilege because God forbid I be made to feel uncomfortable by the fact that my life is or could be demonstrably easier because I was born white.


My favorite one (though not necessarily from you) is "I'm white and I'm not privileged".

People don't need to be privileged for this to matter. You don't have to call it white privilege if you don't want to. Every person in this world who is mentally competent enough to make their own choices is responsible for their own life. While obviously there are unfortunate and unavoidable circumstances that do happen, for the most part everyone (regardless of race) has their own poor life choices to blame for their problems. When I think of white privilege I think of leeway in this area. We have more room to fuck up without landing ourselves in prison or killed or so poor that we can't climb ourselves back out of poverty. Life tends to be easier and more convenient when you're white. People tend to make less assumptions of you based on your skin color if you're white. No one ever says "If you don't like being mistaken for a mass murderer you need to reign in your people and get them to stop mass murdering!"  White people are not to blame. We as a whole are not to blame for white privilege, we are not to blame for the existence of racism, we are not to blame for the plight of minorities, and we are not to blame for any individual PoC's poor life choices or personal problems. If you can get it through your head first and foremost that discussing while privilege is not about laying blame, having a discussion with you will become massively less frustrating.

[Edwardo Piet]

Pablo, we've had another thread in this where statistics were mentioned whereby proportionally far more assaults happen to black people than white people in the UK and you were unable to grasp that that was more relevant than the fact that more assaults happen to white people in terms of numbers of individuals. Considering it was also mentioned 80% of the UK is white!

The fact proportionally far more assaults happen to black people than white people is an example of white privilege. Repeating that more total white people were assaulted when 80% of the UK is white made no sense.

[paulpablo]

So why resist when that opinion is fed back to you?  Saying that you think it exists is lip service that you're paying...your comments plainly lay out the case...such as it is, for why you think it doesn't.  

Asians exist.
Dictionaries.
White bashing.  

What's the problem?  That it sounds so godamned silly when someone else says it.................? 

Im disagreeing and providing information and different perspectives as to why I disagree.

From the start of this thread my point has been I think white privilege exists but not to the extent a lot of other people say, anyone else want to discuss this?

The reply I'm getting is NO WE FUCKING DON'T YOU RACIST CUNT WHY IS THIS TOPIC BEING QUESTIONED YOU JUST DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT blah blah blah.

[paulpablo]

Pablo, we've had another thread in this where statistics were mentioned whereby proportionally far more assaults happen to black people than white people in the UK and you were unable to grasp that that was more relevant than the fact that more assaults happen to white people in terms of numbers of individuals. Considering it was also mentioned 80% of the UK is white!

The fact proportionally far more assaults happen to black people than white people is an example of white privilege. Repeating that more total white people were assaulted when 80% of the UK is white made no sense.

I vaguely remember that thread, I could have changed my mind since then, barely even remember what was said or concluded, if you could copy and paste and important parts then go ahead.

[Edwardo Piet]

I am very privileged to have been born white because I would receive far more racism if I were not.

Guess how much racism I have perceived against white people in almost 28 years here in the UK? ZERO.

Guess how much racism I have perceived against black, hispanic and asian people? Too many times to count.

[Edwardo Piet]

The reply I'm getting is NO WE FUCKING DON'T YOU RACIST CUNT WHY IS THIS TOPIC BEING QUESTIONED YOU JUST DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT blah blah blah.

No one called you racist or a cunt as far as I am aware?