I Love You Enough to Burn You

[reverendjeremiah]

LMFAO..Love the image!

[fr0d0]

Hey CC. You're saying it so much it's true right?

No arguments r us. Don't tell me: you're tired of arguing... except you haven't made a valid point yet.

Nevertheless I'm honoured. Thanks

Even if you assume that the flood story is, in fact, a metaphor for God's delivering us from sin, even that still tends to presuppose that he's saving us from a situation that he made himself.

God exacts justice. God gives you the choice to be good or bad. That isn't God doing bad. That's you doing bad. Part of the perfect creation is life and death. Why would you think a fantasy reality with no life is preferable?

[Cinjin]

Hey CC. You're saying it so much it's true right?

No arguments r us. Don't tell me: you're tired of arguing... except you haven't made a valid point yet.

Nevertheless I'm honoured. Thanks

Even if you assume that the flood story is, in fact, a metaphor for God's delivering us from sin, even that still tends to presuppose that he's saving us from a situation that he made himself.

God exacts justice. God gives you the choice to be good or bad. That isn't God doing bad. That's you doing bad. Part of the perfect creation is life and death. Why would you think a fantasy reality with no life is preferable?

My pleasure. I figured you'd be happy at with my honest portrayal. I'll make sure the pic gets around for you.

...and as for my "lack of valid points" ... I think everyone here has made their own judgement about that. I'm not too terribly concerned about what points a religious lunatic thinks I have or don't have.

Always a pleasure handing you your ass.

[fr0d0]

Handing me my ass is making baseless assertions. Hmm... not what I thought it meant.

Also, It must be so nice to have your delusions confirmed. Living with like minded lunatics can do that to a person I'd guess.

Still you miss the point. But I know, you're past that already. You're a great advert for atheistic imbecility. Keep up the good work

[Cinjin]

Handing me my ass is making baseless assertions. Hmm... not what I thought it meant.

Also, It must be so nice to have your delusions confirmed. Living with like minded lunatics can do that to a person I'd guess.

Still you miss the point. But I know, you're past that already. You're a great advert for atheistic imbecility. Keep up the good work

You know whats funny .... even after all your fanatical viewpoints and all your lunacy - I still don't hate you. You ARE nuts, but I would never want you banned.

[Watson]

Even if I had absolute knowledge of religion, you'd still say that I don't understand because I'm an atheist.

Absolute knowledge of religion =/= understanding of God.

[Ace Otana]

Absolute knowledge of religion =/= understanding of God.

Not really, Watson. If god doesn't exist, then your so called understanding is anything but.
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Rejected where it should never be suggested, YES. Religion says NOTHING about the universe and makes NO COMMENT which should advance our scientific understanding of it.

It doesn't make any advancement in understanding. Also yes it does speak about the universe. God creating it is one.

You claim that science makes claims about the metaphysical.

No I didn't. Please point out where I made such a claim. Rejecting bullshit is not claiming.

Why would you think a fantasy reality with no life is preferable?

It's not fantasy, Frodo. It stems from our understanding of the biological. Besides, it beats going to either heaven or hell. Once our brains stops functioning, we will cease to exist.

Frodo, you are completely nuts!

[LastPoet]

You're a great advert for atheistic imbecility. Keep up the good work

Huh, fr0d0 ol'chap, a deist is an advert for atheistic imbecility?

[fr0d0]

Good catch Poet Meh - I'm out of that game. Ad Hominem, although fun, never qualifies as rational discourse. I guess he wanted out.

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Absolute knowledge of religion =/= understanding of God.

Not really, Watson. If god doesn't exist, then your so called understanding is anything but.

That doesn't address the statement, so "not really" is inapplicable. So ignoring that.. your statement is correct. Understanding of logic isn't understanding if there is no such thing as logic.

Rejected where it should never be suggested, YES. Religion says NOTHING about the universe and makes NO COMMENT which should advance our scientific understanding of it.

It doesn't make any advancement in understanding. Also yes it does speak about the universe. God creating it is one.

Being ultimately true, it isn't required to advance, only our understanding advances in regards to it.
No it doesn't speak about materially creating the universe. I have to credit your lack of knowledge of the subject for that misconception.

You claim that science makes claims about the metaphysical.

No I didn't. Please point out where I made such a claim. Rejecting bullshit is not claiming.

You constantly state that you don't believe in God because of lack of evidence. List me at least one piece of evidence that you would find convincing, and we can check if that is illogical/ makes an extraordinary claim.

Why would you think a fantasy reality with no life is preferable?

It's not fantasy, Frodo. It stems from our understanding of the biological. Besides, it beats going to either heaven or hell. Once our brains stops functioning, we will cease to exist.

So your understanding of biology leads you to theorise that reality should include life without death? I personally find that to be fantastic. Somewhere there one of us left the platform.

You then address a material fact: death, with a metaphysical proposition: life after death... again wanting to mix science with non science. An extraordinary leap. Once again... please justify your reasoning to make such an extraordinary claim.

Frodo, you are completely nuts!

Ad Hominem. Where's your justification?

[Napoléon]

And i don't believe that there has to be 'justice'. I see no reason for this whatsoever other than it satisfies your conscience by thinking that bad people will get punished after they die.
As far as i'm concerned they don't, yes it's sad, but thats just the way i think it is.

This exactly proves the point above. Without a concept of purpose your life is sad and inhibited.

I think it's the height of human arrogance to believe that life has to have a purpose. This is where you are being illogical because you just ASSUME that there has to be a reason we are all here.