The "Cultural Context" Excuse

[Thumpalumpacus]

Yeah, none of that tells us that the Serpent fucked Eve.  You'll need to actually throw down the words.

Also, citing yourself as a source for your own claims is laughably amateurish, entirely unconvincing, and causes me to fight my lesser nature, because after so doing you only deserve mockery, and lord knows that's a talent of mine.

*emphasis mine*
Here's what you stated a few pages back.

I sure do wish you'd make up your mind. Also, it'd be nice if you quit shitposting Bible quotes and speak your own thoughts ... if you have any that haven't been programmed into you. You should be able to formulate your own thoughts in your own words to continue this discussion.

*emphasis mine*

So which is it thump? Do you want me to post the scriptures or not?

What I want is for you to talk with me -- not linking your old posts from another conversation, not shitposting Bible passages ... but you and I, here, having a conversation. Now, if you've got a Bible verse claiming Eve Fucked the snake, post the chapter and verse. I know how to look these things up. Me, I don't think you've got one.

Put it this way, I have far more ammunition than you do, I've been more than cordial with you given our past history. If you want to try me (which you will), go ahead, but know that whatever happens you brought upon yourself.

lol, you're terrifying, Hugs. Simply terrifying.

Seriously, Huggy, don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

I'd suggest you think more and post less ... but I don't know that you're capable of either.

That the best you got?

It's a shame jumping to conclusions isn't an Olympic event -- you'd be a medalist.

[Huggy Bear]

*emphasis mine*
Here's what you stated a few pages back.

*emphasis mine*

So which is it thump? Do you want me to post the scriptures or not?

What I want is for you to talk with me -- not linking your old posts from another conversation, not shitposting Bible passages ... but you and I, here, having a conversation. Now, if you've got a Bible verse claiming Eve Fucked the snake, post the chapter and verse. I know how to look these things up. Me, I don't think you've got one.

*emphasis mine*

Here is your first clue.

Genesis 3
14And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The clearly states that the serpent had a seed (which Eve was already pregnant with).

Your second clue.

If you read the genealogy (which traces the bloodline of the firstborn male heir) of Adam, you'll notice that Cain (who WAS the firstborn) is not mentioned as Adams son.

Genesis 5
This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

Your third clue.

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

*empasis mine*

You will never find anywhere in the bible where it states that Cain was Adams son, you guys just ASSUME it to be so.

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So since Huggles won't respond despite issuing a challenge, we can all assume that he's fine with abortion now.

So quick to pat yourself on the back...

If you bother scrolling up you'd see my response was just above your last post.

Numbers 5:11-31

What part is supposedly speaking of abortion? You know you can actually post the relevant scripture...

[The Grand Nudger]

Way to turn one of the most profound and accurate stories in the bible into a mess of gibberish, Hugs.

Gen 4:1 NIV

Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man."

[Crossless2.0]

Way to turn one of the most profound and accurate stories in the bible into a mess of gibberish, Hugs.

I'd go to Ken Ham for a biology tutorial before I'd turn to a fundamentalist for textual criticism (or simple reading comprehension) lessons.

[The Grand Nudger]

You're confusing fundies with loons. Even the fundies hear this shit and think "wtf?".

[Crossless2.0]

As far as I'm concerned, fundamentalists of whatever religious stripe are loons. But yeah, a few of them paid attention during their high school science classes, and some of them can read above a 4th grade level.

[Nihilist Virus]

So since Huggles won't respond despite issuing a challenge, we can all assume that he's fine with abortion now.

So quick to pat yourself on the back...

If you bother scrolling up you'd see my response was just above your last post.

Sorry, I didn't consider this to be any kind of response:


"What part is supposedly speaking of abortion? You know you can actually post the relevant scripture..."


So basically you demand the book/chapter/verse of where the Bible discusses abortion, and then you ignore the passages I present.  Or maybe you're going blind from excessive masturbation.  Here, I'll post it in large font:


When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

See Numbers 5:11-31 for context.

[Huggy Bear]

Way to turn one of the most profound and accurate stories in the bible into a mess of gibberish, Hugs.

Gen 4:1 NIV

Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man."

So you deliberately take the scripture out of context?

here is the full context.

Genesis 4
4 Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man.”
2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.

Strange but true: Twins can have different fathers

We all know that siblings can have different fathers – technically making them half-siblings – but what about twins? Yup, it happens. In fact, one study estimates that as many as 1 in 400 sets of fraternal twins is "bipaternal."

How is it possible? Simple: Two eggs from the same mother get fertilized by two different fathers – within the same ovulation period.

also

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

It doesn't get much clearer than that.

[Crossless2.0]

Way to turn one of the most profound and accurate stories in the bible into a mess of gibberish, Hugs.

Gen 4:1 NIV

So you deliberately take the scripture out of context?

here is the full context.

Genesis 4
4 Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man.”
2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.

Strange but true: Twins can have different fathers

We all know that siblings can have different fathers – technically making them half-siblings – but what about twins? Yup, it happens. In fact, one study estimates that as many as 1 in 400 sets of fraternal twins is "bipaternal."

How is it possible? Simple: Two eggs from the same mother get fertilized by two different fathers – within the same ovulation period.

also

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

It doesn't get much clearer than that.

Biblical exegesis courtesy of Stretch Fucking Armstrong! So you take the word "later" and deduce it must mean Cain and Abel are twins? And then you cite a New Testament book as evidence of your nutty snake-daddy reading of Genesis? There just aren't enough face palms in the world for this.

[Huggy Bear]

So quick to pat yourself on the back...

If you bother scrolling up you'd see my response was just above your last post.

Sorry, I didn't consider this to be any kind of response:


"What part is supposedly speaking of abortion? You know you can actually post the relevant scripture..."


So basically you demand the book/chapter/verse of where the Bible discusses abortion, and then you ignore the passages I present.  Or maybe you're going blind from excessive masturbation.  Here, I'll post it in large font:


When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

See Numbers 5:11-31 for context.

Numbers 5
27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

What did I tell you guys about the NIV? You do realize that it subtracts whole scriptures, and adds words that are not found in the KJV, which is translated directly from Hebrew and Greek.

Just do a google search of NIV mistranslations

https://isthatinthebible.wordpress.com/a...rsion-niv/

The New International Version of the Bible, or NIV, was first published in 1978. Since then, it has become one of the most popular English Bible translations, and almost certainly the most popular one among Evangelical Christians. It is also one of the worst translations for anyone who is seriously interested in what the Bible says.

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So you deliberately take the scripture out of context?

here is the full context.



Strange but true: Twins can have different fathers

also

It doesn't get much clearer than that.

Biblical exegesis courtesy of Stretch Fucking Armstrong! So you take the word "later" and deduce it must mean Cain and Abel are twins?

I never said they were twins at all, I just showed where a woman can be impregnated by two different men. Adam clearly made love to his wife one time and Cain is born, and somehow mysteriously a second child appears later as you so eloquently put it, use your brain.

And then you cite a New Testament book as evidence of your nutty snake-daddy reading of Genesis? There just aren't enough face palms in the world for this.

Last time I looked, the Bible includes both the old and new testaments... strange how you approve of cherry picking when it suits you.

Don't be ungenerous, vorlon. They cherry pick because of -- what's that learned word? -- exejesus . . . exegenesis . . . exegesis . . . something like that. Remember, it's not intellectually dishonest if there's some sort of Greek-based word for it. They're scholars! Just ask them.

Conservatives cherry pick the Reagan years like fundamentalists cherry pick the Bible.