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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 10:46 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 10:43 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:37 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: How would that change anything? Less than omni beings could leave footprints, too. But a universal footprint would probably be the strongest evidence you might provide, assuming that 'footprint' were directly accessible and not the product of questionable interpretation. I found a foot print that predicts the structure/behavior of atoms and the dark energy constant for starters. Goes on to explain the matter/anti-matter asymmetry, and the 1 to 5 matter to dark matter influence....among many other things of universal nature. All things modern science has already found, things we could not find without.
Care to share the details of this footprint?
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 10:43 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:21 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: I'm just saying, sufficiently advanced technology could satisfy your request. Imho you should set the bar higher for proof of God.
Meh, that's totally silly in my opinion. Sufficiently advanced technology could be simulating deer too, or could be simulating everything, could be simulating the sun. There is no need for that kind of over skepticism and I think most people who claim they would be skeptical of good solid evidence of God are probably not being honest with themselves. The point is that there isn't that kind of evidence
So pick something else or set of criteria not dependent on your immediate senses.
There is no single external data point that can suffice as evidence for God. We are looking for a pattern across data sets.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 10:53 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:43 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Meh, that's totally silly in my opinion. Sufficiently advanced technology could be simulating deer too, or could be simulating everything, could be simulating the sun. There is no need for that kind of over skepticism and I think most people who claim they would be skeptical of good solid evidence of God are probably not being honest with themselves. The point is that there isn't that kind of evidence
So pick something else or set of criteria not dependent on your immediate senses.
There is no single external data point that can suffice as evidence for God. We are looking for a pattern across data sets.
Well what is your criteria for the evidence that deer exist?
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 10:56 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 10:46 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:43 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: I found a foot print that predicts the structure/behavior of atoms and the dark energy constant for starters. Goes on to explain the matter/anti-matter asymmetry, and the 1 to 5 matter to dark matter influence....among many other things of universal nature. All things modern science has already found, things we could not find without.
Care to share the details of this footprint? We'll have to start over before the beginning, up for a brief journey through matter, space, time and scale?
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm
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(August 14, 2016 at 10:56 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:46 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Care to share the details of this footprint? We'll have to start over before the beginning, up for a brief journey through matter, space, time and scale?
Only if it doesn't look like this:
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm
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(August 14, 2016 at 10:53 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:50 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: So pick something else or set of criteria not dependent on your immediate senses.
There is no single external data point that can suffice as evidence for God. We are looking for a pattern across data sets.
Well what is your criteria for the evidence that deer exist?
The deer is self evident, God is not.
Like you can't see the earths magnetic field, but you can detect it's influence on a compass.
My compass is the universe.
(August 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm)Jesster Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:56 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: We'll have to start over before the beginning, up for a brief journey through matter, space, time and scale?
Only if it doesn't look like this:
What are you talking about, that looks delicious!
And for good example, would you mind briefly describing the Big Bang theory in a non-salad form? *popcorn*
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:04 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 6:24 pm)Expired Wrote: The sudden disappearance of all cancers. Or an enormous foot sticking out of the clouds.
Apparently, this may be explainable by the Many Worlds Interpretation of QM if MWI is true.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm)Jesster Wrote: Only if it doesn't look like this:
What are you talking about, that looks delicious!
And for good example, would you mind briefly describing the Big Bang theory in a non-salad form? *popcorn*
Nope. I'm not making an assertion here. I'm not spending time explaining something if it's not my job to do so. So far though, most of what you've said is still nothing but abstraction. Bring it to the real world.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:06 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 11:04 pm)Irrational Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 6:24 pm)Expired Wrote: The sudden disappearance of all cancers. Or an enormous foot sticking out of the clouds.
Apparently, this may be explainable by the Many Worlds Interpretation of QM if MWI is true.
I find it so bizarre that scientists would attribute a completely deterministic model (currently understanding of quantum mechanics and physical forces) on a completely random Many Worlds metaverse that burps out lucky universes like a drunken bingo machine. Illogical.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:07 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 10:56 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:46 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Care to share the details of this footprint? We'll have to start over before the beginning, up for a brief journey through matter, space, time and scale?
Sure. Any time you're ready.
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