(August 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
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What would evidence of a God even look like?
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(August 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Welcome to AF! Maybe you would like to introduce yourself? http://atheistforums.org/forum-11.html (August 14, 2016 at 9:28 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:(August 14, 2016 at 9:26 pm)Whateverist Wrote: You mean Evidence? I was thinking of what it is that actually persuades people. Can't get physical evidence beyond the inflationary border, but you can formulate a predictive model that is back by scientific evidence of universal phenomena. Science evolves based on plausibility and explanatory power. (August 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:(August 14, 2016 at 5:14 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My argument goes like this. If there's a God that created the Universe(the Universe being everything in existence) then this God is either a part of the Universe or the Universe itself. It can't be merely a part of it, since it created it, so it must be the Universe itself. But then, there's no use calling it God. You might as well do away with the shady language and call it what it is. Nature, Universe, Cosmos. Whatever your secular preference. Did not know that. Huh. Well if that's right then I suppose evidence for God would be just about everything. Never thought about it that way before. RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 9:36 pm
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(August 14, 2016 at 9:35 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Did not know that. Everything is "evidence" for God, the big logistics question is why/how? You have to know what you are looking for. (August 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My point is, there couldn't possibly be any evidence for a creating God. And anyone who isn't trying to be obstinate about it would admit it as well. Sure, god could come down to earth and create a human being out of mud or a rib. If I saw that, I would be convinced. ![]() (August 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:(August 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My point is, there couldn't possibly be any evidence for a creating God. And anyone who isn't trying to be obstinate about it would admit it as well. AS per my reasoning, God wouldn't be anything but the universe itself. So you're basically saying the universe would do something like that? Not f likely. (August 14, 2016 at 9:31 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:I just(August 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: ![]() so Cute. (August 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:And you trust your eyes to tell you the truth? Can they not be fooled?(August 14, 2016 at 9:13 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My point is, there couldn't possibly be any evidence for a creating God. And anyone who isn't trying to be obstinate about it would admit it as well.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder (August 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:(August 14, 2016 at 9:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Sure, god could come down to earth and create a human being out of mud or a rib. If I saw that, I would be convinced.And you trust your eyes to tell you the truth? Can they not be fooled? I'd probably need some independent confirmation from someone else. Like I said, it's about the same standard of evidence that I have for the existence of deer or lizards or whatever. ![]() (August 14, 2016 at 9:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:(August 14, 2016 at 5:14 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: My argument goes like this. If there's a God that created the Universe(the Universe being everything in existence) then this God is either a part of the Universe or the Universe itself. It can't be merely a part of it, since it created it, so it must be the Universe itself. But then, there's no use calling it God. You might as well do away with the shady language and call it what it is. Nature, Universe, Cosmos. Whatever your secular preference. ![]() ![]() |
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