Trump voters, explained

[Thumpalumpacus]

Yeah, here in rural Texas there are several different kinds of Trumpeteers -- smart, dumb, businessmen, methheads, etc.

Yes, but pretty much all are disenfranchised.  That is the point I was trying to make. :p  
Neither I nor the article said all are religious, or uneducated, or even poor. 
They are mostly rural though there are some city Trumpsters too.  It's just an interesting look at the demographics of liberal (mostly urban) and conservative (mostly rural).   And some good reasons why urban and rural people often have different values.

I'm a small town rural girl myself, so I'm not saying ALL of anything, but these demographics are real, and getting more and more divided along these lines.

Understood. I didn't mean to make it sound like i was arguing against a generalization you had laid. Apologies for coming across otherwise.

[abaris]

They are getting the short end of the stick at least as much as I am these days.

They usually get the ass end. Many townspeople too. That calls for standing up for their rights and demanding for society to get better. It doesn't justify falling for snake oil vendors selling hatred against people being even worse off.

I'm bad off myself. And I'm very much against the society we're licing in today. But never could I imagine to cast my vote for one of these despicable creatures who's only product is hate and exclusion. In doing so I wouldn't be able to look into a mirror anymore.

[SteelCurtain]

It was a good article.

To my understanding, there are two major reasons why voters are voting for Trump.

1) Like my parents, they are all about the Supreme Court. They think that a progressive Supreme Court will be the worst thing that can happen, ever.

2) The social progress that has happened, and its byproducts, things like PC culture, the rise of popular secularism, steps closer to equal rights for minorities, women, and the LGBT communities makes these people feel like they are being left behind.

And they are being left behind. It's true that manufacturing jobs are leaving. It's true that drugs like pills and meth are a monster problem in rural areas. It's true that mining jobs are going away. It's true that all over the place, they are seeing people who are not white and not from here doing better than them, and that inspires anger.

But that's not a problem that any presidential candidate can solve, and I am not sure that these people really know that. The problem is the way they set up their infrastructure in the first place. These towns that were built on one industry or one factory or one railway station or one mine---when that's gone, there's a lot of people who are needing jobs where there are none, and they have no money to move away because they were living at the line to begin with. They either don't understand or don't care that drugs are a problem that is not unique to their culture, it's just new. they are not used to dealing with it on this level. It's usually just alcohol, but now it is the invasive destruction of meth and opioids. This scourge has moved from the cities into the country, and they think it's just them that is being forgotten.

Either way, as technology advances and more and more jobs are being taken by computers and the efficiency afforded by them, these issues are only going to grow more severe. Manufacturing jobs are going to continue to be shifted elsewhere where labor is cheap, and when they stay here in the US, there are going to be less and less of the mechanics and machinists needed, and more and more of the engineers and computer scientists needed, which will disenfranchise these people even more.

We are heading towards a labor crisis in this country. Jobs are in the tech industry and the service industry, and soon, in the energy industry. Clean energy is the market demand---and whether we like it or not, there are not going to be enough jobs elsewhere to go around. I don't know what the answer is, but we are going to have to have some sort of major shift in the way we think about jobs and unemployment in this country.

[vorlon13]

From my viewpoint, Hillary has been (or should have been) aware of her grotesque high polling negatives for the last 20 years. That she not only failed to lift a finger to ameliorate the problem, it seems as though she considered it a personal challenge to see just how much worse she could get them.

We are PROFOUNDLY lucky the republicans failed to nominate a responsible adult as their candidate, and instead chose a diptard with even higher negatives. My disgust with Hillary is manifest, there is no way she could have known until this year the 'pubs would fuck up so catastrophically, so failing to work on those negatives remains a hideously disgusting aspect of her character.

The public position vs private position revelation induced nausea, I remain aghast at her connivance and perfidy, and will be uncomfortably apprehensive that WikiLeaks doesn't have anything else in their holster. Also realizing a fair election process might have resulted in a different Democrat candidate at this point should be especially galling to quite a few folks that poured their hearts into a nascent movement they believed in.

[A Theist]

Hillary voters explained. They're a basket full of crazies. A GOP headquarters was just fire bombed in North Carolina with a warning to get out
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/po...27627.html

[SteelCurtain]

That's terrible, and I hope they are caught and prosecuted.

Hardly think this explains anything about Hillary voters. But you're just an angry troll anyways.

[Minimalist]

Hillary voters explained. They're a basket full of crazies. A GOP headquarters was just fire bombed in North Carolina with a warning to get out
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/po...27627.html

I'm sure it was a false flag operation by some nutty nazi fucktards who see NC going to Hillary anyway.  What's next?  Burning down the Reichstag, Adolf?

[account_inactive]

A swastika and the words “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else” were spray painted on the side of an adjacent building. No damage estimates were available.

That's very Nazi-like of them.

[account_inactive]

Hillary voters explained. They're a basket full of crazies. A GOP headquarters was just fire bombed in North Carolina with a warning to get out
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/po...27627.html

I'm sure it was a false flag operation by some nutty nazi fucktards who see NC going to Hillary anyway.  What's next?  Burning down the Reichstag, Adolf?

You make me laugh, Min.

[Aroura]

I think dismissing ANY group of people as simple assholes and a lost cause is a mistake, but that's just me.