What to say when somebody asks about the big bang

[Arkilogue]

So you work with the theory that matter and energy are eternal, you just don't label any state of it "God"...yes?

Prove that any god or gods exist.

According to who's definition?

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm guessing it's a salad of sorts?

It's a soup reduction with a side of unleavened bread.

Seriously, look up the Ain Soph Aur and the Tzimtzum.

I'll take the food tip, and thanks, but ... whooooooosh

[Thumpalumpacus]

You're half right.

So you work with the theory that matter and energy are eternal, you just don't label any state of it "God"...yes?

What do you mean by that word "God"?

[Arkilogue]

It's a soup reduction with a side of unleavened bread.

Seriously, look up the Ain Soph Aur and the Tzimtzum.

I'll take the food tip, and thanks, but ... whooooooosh

The food tip is symbolic....whooosh.

[Arkilogue]

So you work with the theory that matter and energy are eternal, you just don't label any state of it "God"...yes?

What do you mean by that word "God"?

Most simplistically: Pure, absolute existence/substance/all-ness. In deference to the universe which is dominated by void space and very very very little actual extant substance.

The state of equilibrium in an infinite "particle" before the symmetry break that results in it's expression as finite wave forms aka universes. It still exists outside, above and below all the infinite universes.

For further specificity I label that "GOD" and it remains outside the void space universe. "God" is the finite self individuation/"only begotten son" that remains inside the universe. Which would have been the being born as Jesus.

[chimp3]

It amuses me when you say "my working model"! Cracks me up.

Working as in it both "works" logically and yields predictions we've already found evidence for, and I'm still working on it.  It a process in progress.

It cracks me up when you say it "yields predictions".

[Thumpalumpacus]

What do you mean by that word "God"?

Most simplistically: Pure, absolute existence/substance/all-ness. In deference to the universe which is dominated by void space and very very very little actual extant substance.

The state of equilibrium in an infinite "particle" before the symmetry break that results in it's expression as finite wave forms aka universes.  It still exists outside, above and below all the infinite universes.

For further specificity I label that "GOD" and it remains outside the void space universe. "God" is the finite self individuation/"only begotten son" that remains inside the universe.  Which wold have been the being born as Jesus.

You're defining your god here as everything, and nothing, simultaneously -- because the one is the other, when you sit down and think about it.

And you'll need to explicate exactly what you mean by "symmetry break", and how the "state of equilibrium" in an "infinite particle" results in "finite waveforms". Or, alternatively, you can simply plead to saladry.

Sounds to me more like you don't know yourself what you're talking about, and are just stringing words along to make your pretty feelings sound smart, too. If you want to call this god-thingy "ineffable", just get a goddamned thesaurus, look the word up, and be done with it.

But -- know that "ineffable" is a non-definition.

[Arkilogue]

Working as in it both "works" logically and yields predictions we've already found evidence for, and I'm still working on it.  It a process in progress.

It cracks me up when you say it "yields predictions".

Yes. Geometrically. Just as a circular vibrating container of water predicts circular internal standing wave forms..it does not predict squares or triangle or an infinite number of other possible shapes...it structurally predicts only one shape, circular.

My model structurally predicts internal two part spherical standing wave forms with an inner nucleus and an outer border condition defined by a field of probable location.

[chimp3]

It cracks me up when you say it "yields predictions".

Yes. Geometrically.  Just as a circular vibrating container of water predicts circular internal standing wave forms..it does not predict squares or triangle or an infinite number of other possible shapes...it structurally predicts only one shape, circular.

My model structurally predicts internal two part spherical standing wave forms with an inner nucleus and an outer border condition defined by a field of probable location.

Ta ha ha ha! You crack me up , arkie. Where do you get your material?

[LadyForCamus]

It cracks me up when you say it "yields predictions".

Yes. Geometrically. Just as a circular vibrating container of water predicts circular internal standing wave forms..it does not predict squares or triangle or an infinite number of other possible shapes...it structurally predicts only one shape, circular.

My model structurally predicts internal two part spherical standing wave forms with an inner nucleus and an outer border condition defined by a field of probable location.