Explaining the fact that we exist

[Minimalist]

These "ain't we humans marvelous therefore god" threads always remind me of this discussion..... from 6 and a half years ago.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-3113-pos...l#pid59096

[Lek]

We're talking apes who can barely get off the tiny rock we're stuck to in the middle of nowhere.

We need to get over ourselves.

I think the issue being discussed here is fun to talk about, but is irrelevant as to whether or not God exists. What I have become aware of lately is that atheists are constantly trying to demonstrate how really insignificant we are.

[Minimalist]

Yeah, Lek, we know.  You want to be special.

[Truth_Love2016]

If one of them failed to produce the results that it did, we wouldn't be here, existing.
Isn't it too much of a coincidence?

Only if you think you are really special.

Minimalist, I pray the Lord Jesus Christ changes your heart and your perspective, your Blaspheming the Lord, he still loves you!!!

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Only if you think you are really special.

Minimalist, I pray the Lord Jesus Christ changes your heart and your perspective, your Blaspheming the Lord, he still loves you!!!

And one more thing why do you sound so angry, upset, why are you cursing the one who created you?  What's wrong? Please don't be deceived by the enemy!! Jesus Christ Loves you!!

[LastPoet]

[Arkilogue]

We're talking apes who can barely get off the tiny rock we're stuck to in the middle of nowhere.

We need to get over ourselves.

I think the issue being discussed here is fun to talk about, but is irrelevant as to whether or not God exists.  What I have become aware of lately is that atheists are constantly trying to demonstrate how really insignificant we are.

It's all cherry picking relativity anyway. "Significant....insignificant....too many mind."

[Lek]

Yeah, Lek, we know.  You want to be special.

I know Mini. It's (yuk) really hard for me to accept the fact that you are also a special creation, but if God thinks so I'll have to go along with it.

[Minimalist]

Only if you think you are really special.

Minimalist, I pray the Lord Jesus Christ changes your heart and your perspective, your Blaspheming the Lord, he still loves you!!!

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Minimalist, I pray the Lord Jesus Christ changes your heart and your perspective, your Blaspheming the Lord, he still loves you!!!

And one more thing why do you sound so angry, upset, why are you cursing the one who created you?  What's wrong? Please don't be deceived by the enemy!! Jesus Christ Loves you!!

Because I'm sick and tired of morons like you ranting and raving about your fucking fairy tales as if they mean a tinker's damn.  Got it now, asshole?

[Minimalist]

Yeah, Lek, we know.  You want to be special.

I know Mini.  It's (yuk) really hard for me to accept the fact that you are also a special creation, but if God thinks so I'll have to go along with it.

Makes your precious god out to be something of a fuck-up, eh?

Glad this is your problem/

[Crossless2.0]

And this is where honest agnosticism concerning such questions earns its keep. Better that than taking a particular alleged god (a god of revelation and miracles, no less), written of in an old book that you happen to revere by cultural and historical accident, and shoe-horning it into a philosophical argument and then pretending that a bait and switch hasn't happened. Argue for deism all you want, Chad, if it makes you happy. But we all know that's not where you really come down. And Aquinas can't save the poor quality of the 'Biblical evidence' on which the Christian house of cards rests.

For me it is sufficient to know that the God of Classical Theism, known by general revelation, is consistent with the Christian God, known by special revelation. I see little point in drawing those connections for people who do not recognize the first, so there is little point in criticizing me for not doing so for the second.

Well played, sir. I can't say I blame you one bit.

I, too, would use others' skepticism as an excuse to avoid addressing the alleged truth of Christian "special revelation". It's so much tidier this way! I'll even pass over your slippery use of the words "know/known".