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Explaining the fact that we exist
#81
RE: Explaining the fact that we exist
You might think that, but obviously not everyone thinks that, and I'm not sure how you could have arrived -at- that as some sort of truth. The "religions with a stick" are babies, newcomers, short lived cults, and even -withn- that single, abrahamic tradiion..there's less and less stick with very passing generation. Hell, catholics are flirting with the notion that even -heretics- get to go to heaven. Purgatory went poof...and soon, too, imo, hell will follow.

You have to step back and assess the broader picture if you want to entertain the notion that maybe, just maybe, you can experience divinity in the absence of pain. If you're not willing to do that, or even entertain the notion..then it's not actually an issue of you "not being able to handle it" - you want it to be painful, it's not worth it without the pain...and this is little more than a self inflicted wound, though what it might have to do with a god is completely out of left field...to me.

Do you know how wiccans call down the godhead? They get dressed up and have a party. Do you know how they attempt to use the power of divinity in their lives? By thinking happy thoughts.
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#82
RE: Explaining the fact that we exist
(November 5, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You might think that, but obviously not everyone thinks that, and I'm not sure how you could have arrived -at- that as some sort of truth.  The "religions with a stick" are babies, newcomers, short lived cults, and even -withn- that single, abrahamic tradiion..there's less and less stick with very passing generation.  Hell, catholics are flirting with the notion that even -heretics- get to go to heaven.  Purgatory went poof...and soon, too, imo, hell will follow.

You have to step back and assess the broader picture if you want to entertain the notion that maybe, just maybe, you can experience divinity in the absence of pain.  If you're not willing to do that, or even entertain the notion..then it's not actually an issue of you "not being able to handle it" - you want it to be painful, it's not worth it without the pain...and this is little more than a self inflicted wound, though what it might have to do with a god is completely out of left field...to me.

Do you know how wiccans call down the godhead?  They get dressed up and have a party.  Do you know how they attempt to use the power of divinity in their lives?  By thinking happy thoughts.

People suffer Alot to earn few millions. Its safe to asume that if divine exists, that you have to suffer much more for it to be just or right to get closer to the greatest.

Even here, when we see people like Justin Bieber, young playboy. We subconsciously disrespect him.
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#83
RE: Explaining the fact that we exist
That would be a non-sequitur.  What does suffering to earn money have to do with a god? It may be an assumption, but it's not a safe or particularly well thought out one. Are you going to try and see if there might be ways to experience the divine without suffering, or spend that time instead trying to find ways to insist that there can -be- no experience f the divine without suffering, in direct contradiction to the examples which do, demonstrably, exist?

Maybe it's just you, you just might be a masochist who enters ecstatic states only when you are made to suffer? That does work, don't get me wrong, it's also a route that people take. Some people hang themselves by hooks through the flesh to receive a vision. Ever thought of trying that? Obviously, it's not going the painless route, but you seem uninterested, so I'm offering alternatives which would be the sorts of things that might appeal to an insistent sufferer.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#84
RE: Explaining the fact that we exist
(October 24, 2016 at 2:34 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(October 24, 2016 at 2:30 pm)Truth_Love2016 Wrote: First and fore most the existence of human beings explains that there is a God who created all, how can atoms, protons and neutrons create a human being there is no way? Not too mention the inside organs, for our organs  to be so detailed in position, how can it be possible that we come from no where? Not to mention the fact that there is life inside of pregnant women, if we all came from no where how is it that we're able to multiple in vast numbers? By sperm and  an egg correct? Well how could a sperm and an egg produce an unborn child if there was not a source behind it? The ocean is so vast with water and the sky is a reflection of the waters!!!

You really are just a simple simple person. Bless your heart!

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#85
RE: Explaining the fact that we exist
There just just so many ways atoms can combine in this universe and it just so happens that combination resulted in life on this planet in this galaxy. Homo sapiens constitutes the latest combination of those atoms. A simplistic account, perhaps, but basically accurate.
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