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A serious question for theists
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RE: A serious question for theists
November 6, 2016 at 10:36 pm
(November 6, 2016 at 4:22 pm)Lek Wrote:
(November 5, 2016 at 6:43 pm)dyresand Wrote: How do you exactly know if God/Jesus even loves you?
The bible only supports god loving a select few people so yeah you can't exactly use it.

Your whole premise is wrong.  The bible doesn't say he loves only a select few.  It he says that he loved the world so much that he gave his son to take on the wrath of sin for the whole world.

It says whatever you want. That's how the Bible works.
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RE: A serious question for theists
November 7, 2016 at 7:16 am
(November 6, 2016 at 9:24 pm)Lek Wrote:
(November 6, 2016 at 8:47 pm)dyresand Wrote: So one human sacrifice means he loves the whole world and everything on it? 
i mean that is pretty weak if you ask me. That and  it was pointless because were more moral now
than back then.

God sacrificed his only son for the world.  What is so weak about that?

Great way to show love, having someone tortured and crucified. I'm sure this god of yours could have thought of a better way to show his love, being all powerful, Like thinking to himself I've cocked this creation up, so I will take responsibility and I will just forgive the sins that I facilitated in the first place. But no.

Seems like a bit of a buffoon to me.
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RE: A serious question for theists
November 7, 2016 at 10:51 am
(November 5, 2016 at 6:43 pm)dyresand Wrote: How do you exactly know if God/Jesus even loves you?
The bible only supports god loving a select few people so yeah you can't exactly use it.

To start out with you don't know because you truly do not understand the way in which God's loves. When we think of love we think of Storge' Eros or philia, (Google 4 greek forms of love) as that is all the word usually means to us.

However God offers everyone Agape' A love based on a respect and or favor depending on how you look at it.
In essence God promises ABC for anyone willing to do 123. The love is in the open invitation and willingness to treat all of us to this opportunity.

That said Once you accept the initial invitation your eyes and ears will be open/receptive to God and you will begine to see other types of love manifest through God to you. Storge'/fatherly love and Philia or a friendship with the Holy Spirit/Christ.
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RE: A serious question for theists
November 7, 2016 at 11:07 am (This post was last modified: November 7, 2016 at 11:08 am by dyresand.)
(November 6, 2016 at 9:24 pm)Lek Wrote:
(November 6, 2016 at 8:47 pm)dyresand Wrote: So one human sacrifice means he loves the whole world and everything on it? 
i mean that is pretty weak if you ask me. That and  it was pointless because were more moral now
than back then.

God sacrificed his only son for the world.  What is so weak about that?

I don't know a sacrifice seems kinda shitty when a thing called a apology could work just as well
or i don't know removing the curse he put on humans. Because your god does not love us enough
to even do that.
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RE: A serious question for theists
November 7, 2016 at 11:37 am
(November 7, 2016 at 11:07 am)dyresand Wrote:
(November 6, 2016 at 9:24 pm)Lek Wrote: God sacrificed his only son for the world.  What is so weak about that?

I don't know a sacrifice seems kinda shitty when a thing called a apology could work just as well
or i don't know removing the curse he put on humans. Because your god does not love us enough
to even do that.

maybe you should start by defining love. It seems you have a perverse version of the word when you use it.
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RE: A serious question for theists
November 7, 2016 at 12:10 pm
(November 5, 2016 at 6:43 pm)dyresand Wrote: How do you exactly know if God/Jesus even loves you?
I don't exactly know. That's why it's called a faith.
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RE: A serious question for theists
November 7, 2016 at 12:14 pm
(November 6, 2016 at 9:24 pm)Lek Wrote:
(November 6, 2016 at 8:47 pm)dyresand Wrote: So one human sacrifice means he loves the whole world and everything on it? 
i mean that is pretty weak if you ask me. That and  it was pointless because were more moral now
than back then.

God sacrificed his only son for the world.  What is so weak about that?

I've often wondered how anyone could be stupid enough to fall for such an obvious load of shit.  And then you come along and demonstrate the answer, Lek.
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RE: A serious question for theists
November 7, 2016 at 12:56 pm
(November 6, 2016 at 9:24 pm)Lek Wrote:
(November 6, 2016 at 8:47 pm)dyresand Wrote: So one human sacrifice means he loves the whole world and everything on it? 
i mean that is pretty weak if you ask me. That and  it was pointless because were more moral now
than back then.

God sacrificed his only son for the world.  What is so weak about that?

lmao

"Hey I'm going to show you how much I love you by killing my son."
“What screws us up the most in life is the picture in our head of what it's supposed to be.”

Also if your signature makes my scrolling mess up "you're tacky and I hate you."
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RE: A serious question for theists
November 7, 2016 at 1:06 pm (This post was last modified: November 7, 2016 at 1:06 pm by vorlon13.)
. . . to appease my being pissed off with you over how you turned out because of the way I created you . .
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: A serious question for theists
November 7, 2016 at 1:47 pm (This post was last modified: November 7, 2016 at 1:47 pm by dyresand.)
(November 7, 2016 at 12:10 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(November 5, 2016 at 6:43 pm)dyresand Wrote: How do you exactly know if God/Jesus even loves you?
I don't exactly know. That's why it's called a faith.

Um... so you just roll the dice on whether or not god loves you then... gor it.
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