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Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 8, 2011 at 9:34 am
Psychic tip of mass grave in Texas turns out false
I don't know why anyone would even listen to anyone claiming to be a psychic. When's the last time a psychic ever found a missing person before the police did? They always only find all the connections Nostradamus-style after the police find the body.
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RE: Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 8, 2011 at 2:00 pm
No such thing as psychics.
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RE: Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 8, 2011 at 2:06 pm
All of the hard research I've ever seen about so-called pshyic abilities amounts to nothing better than chance. In other words, you have, at best, a 50/50 chance of getting the answer right. Might as well flip a coin.
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RE: Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm
If there was anything to it they'd all be playing the stock market instead of wasting their time helping cops.
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RE: Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 8, 2011 at 2:18 pm
I'm right with you Thomas ...
Amazing how many "psychics" there are in the world - and not a ONE of them was able to warn us about the Twin Towers, the tsunami in Japan, the bombings in Europe, or anything else of any substantial worth.
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RE: Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 8, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Well, it was a coincidence that yesterday as I was working, I was thinking about so-called psychics (OMG! I must be psychic!). They call it "Extra-Sensory Perception" and supposedly is a function of the brain. The problem is that even so-called psychics do no better than chance in a controlled environment. But the part I was really thinking of was that if this is supposed to be some sort of means of perception by our brains, it seems like it's pretty damn unreliable. I know what my house looks like and can navigate around even in the dark. I know what my wife's voice sounds like day in and day out. A song you hear on the radio today sounds the same as the first time you ever heard it. Food, if prepared the same way, usually always tastes the same. A bottle of cologne smells the same day in and day out. In other words, our five senses are pretty reliable.
Take so-called "psychic ability" on the other hand. For some strange, cosmic reason, psychic abilities just seem to come & go. Even those claiming to be psychic say that their "abilities" aren't 100% reliable. And, as I stated above, when so-called psychic abilities are tested in laboratory controlled conditions, success rates seem to dwindle down to chance. So basically, what good is so-called "psychic ability?" I've never heard of any so-called psychics warning about 9/11 before it happened. I've never seen a headline that says, "Psychic Wins Lottery Again." I've never even actually heard of a psychic successfully finding a missing child, but after a body is found they then swoop in and make connections between their supposed predictions and the actual evidence. And usually it's something as vague as "He'll be found near water."
It's obvious that there's nothing real to ESP, and people are just retrofitting the data to fit in with current predictions. That, and they make dozens of predictions and ignore the ones which come to nothing, but tout the one they got right as proof of their abilities. Keep throwing darts at a dartboard and eventually you'll get a bullseye. The "good" psychics convince people that they always get a bullseye while ignoring all the misses.
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RE: Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 9, 2011 at 1:20 am
The problem is yo're only relying on 5 of the 12-20 some senses you have.
Your sense of Balance is less reliable than your sense of touch. The fact that the 5 material sensory inputs interact directly with material existance of course makes them reliable. Sensory skill are trained by use and necessity. If people trained their more subtle sensory inputs, perhaps they'd be more accurate. The prolem is in a deterministic and experiential world, we rely heavily on our interaction with the material, which accentuates those inputs. The senses you rely on most are the strongest. To dismiss the potential for ESP is standard for strict materialsts. Most also claim 5 senses regularly. I see it as a detriment to exploring and testing the metaphysical.
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RE: Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 9, 2011 at 4:09 am
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RE: Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 9, 2011 at 5:11 am
Glad everyone's not as closed minded.
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RE: Psychic prediction of mass graves turns out false
June 9, 2011 at 4:12 pm
The thing is that there is no evidence that there is anything at all to ESP, other than cognition through your normal senses which one may be unaware that he is actually perceiving such, cognitive bias, cold reading, and lucky guesses (which tie into cognitive bias). Every time ESP has been put to the test in double-blind, controlled conditions, it fails miserably and any guesses fare no better than chance.
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