"Stunned" by Brian37

[Brian37]

What a load of bullshit. First off moron, Hillary won the popular vote. Secondly many of the states affected DONT have early voting, and the cost of living in cities and burbs vs rural on election day make it harder for many in the middle class and especially working poor and minorities to vote on election day because they have to work. `

Fear not in 4 years after people realize he has no intent on doing all the impossible things he claims he will, we will come up with a candidate who wont make the same mistakes this time.

[Brian37]

KUSA you do understand the morons who put him in office don't like atheists. That is the one thing about especially atheists who voted for Trump, way to vote against your own self interests moron. On top of citizens united flooding more big money into politics, he can expand very easily more right wing religious pulpit politics. You are fucking idiot voting for that moron.

[Napoléon]

KUSA you do understand the morons who put him in office don't like atheists. That is the one thing about especially atheists who voted for Trump, way to vote against your own self interests moron. On top of citizens united flooding more big money into politics, he can expand very easily more right wing religious pulpit politics. You are fucking idiot voting for that moron.

Has it occurred to you that there might be other self interests?

[Brian37]

KUSA you do understand the morons who put him in office don't like atheists. That is the one thing about especially atheists who voted for Trump, way to vote against your own self interests moron. On top of citizens united flooding more big money into politics, he can expand very easily more right wing religious pulpit politics. You are fucking idiot voting for that moron.

Has it occurred to you that there might be other self interests?

No, humans all have one interest in the end, resources and survival. The disagreement is in how we go about that and that we call economics and politics.

I know my economic history and I know my religious history and I am old enough to know the right wing tactics for the past 36 years both with religion and economics have destroyed the middle class. There was a time when our right wing hated politics up until the 60s when blacks started not accepting their status as second class. That is when assholes like Fuckwell successfully convinced the religious to stick their noses into politics, and between assholes like him and the same mindset that caused the great depression, we ended up with BOTH Reagan who gave us failed trickle up economics and Bush Jr who bankrupted the country.

The same xenophobia successfully gave Hitler a platform. AND AGAIN, no, I don't think Trump can single handed become a dictator by himself, but the TONE he has set, if more politicians adapt it, will erode our concepts of peaceful transfer of power.

If you think hate cant rise to that level, do remember there was a time when a majority of our congress were KKK members, and we are also the nation whom owned slaves, killed off native Americans, put innocent Japanese in interment camps and our right wing is still freaking out about gay marriage. I only hope there is till enough sanity that can keep a leash on him long enough to get rid of him in 4 years.

[KUSA]

KUSA you do understand the morons who put him in office don't like atheists.

They don't like Islam either. I don't like Islam. This sounds like a common interest.

That is the one thing about especially atheists who voted for Trump, way to vote against your own self interests moron.

What self interest is that? I live in the Bible Belt. Church and God are all around me. They don't bother me and I don't bother them.

On top of citizens united flooding more big money into politics, he can expand very easily more right wing religious pulpit politics. You are fucking idiot voting for that moron.

He doesn't strike me as a religious nut.

[Brian37]

KUSA you do understand the morons who put him in office don't like atheists.

They don't like Islam either. I don't like Islam. This sounds like a common interest.

That is the one thing about especially atheists who voted for Trump, way to vote against your own self interests moron.

What self interest is that? I live in the Bible Belt. Church and God are all around me. They don't bother me and I don't bother them.

On top of citizens united flooding more big money into politics, he can expand very easily more right wing religious pulpit politics. You are fucking idiot voting for that moron.

He doesn't strike me as a religious nut.

Holy fuck you moron, that is who he appealed to. I don't think he gives one shit either but like any sociopath he is a master manipulator. He told our religious right exactly what they wanted to hear regardless of the divisions he created. Stalin and Hitler also have been argued to be atheists, only one of them were between the two, but both had the ability to convince people to follow them.

Hitler was his own brand of deist/occult/Catholic. Stalin prior to rising had a degree in theology. BOTH have an authoritarian view. Both preyed upon hyper nationalism and populism. The very thing Reagan claimed to be fighting in the cold war, as well intended as he was, was the very domino he set up to allow for the GOP to pander to the worst of the far right.

I would seriously warn you that Trump is not a left or right issue. I have said that consistently. He panders to a very dark past, he panders to the same xenophobia Hitler and Stalin did. He has sold Obama as "other" for 5 years long before he ran. He is not concerned with raising people's income. He will simply do what Bush did, throw a bribe rebate at his supporters as the crumbs they will be and we will continue the global race to more cheap labor and poverty. 

You do NOT have to take my word for it. A little economic research on YOUR part will show you that our pay gap is exploding and our 1% has the combined wealth of the majority of the middle class and working poor. What is even worse is that this has gone global in that 62 billionaires worldwide have the combined wealth of 3 billion humans.

Now, goat all you want. But I am telling you in all sincerity with all joking aside, that he has convinced far too many people that all they have to do is continue to be that hamster on the wheel chasing a utopia carrot that does not exist. I really wish my party would be as enthusiastic as they were with Obama, but extend that to our local level and state level and in midterms. Our nation is blue in reality but we have been held hostage by the top and the right for 36 years. We failed to learn our lesson with Gore. BUT it is our fault.

He wont build that wall. And if he reverses all of the ACA and he continues corporate welfare, don't come bitching to me when you realize how fucked you really are.

[KUSA]

Holy fuck you moron, that is who he appealed to. I don't think he gives one shit either but like any sociopath he is a master manipulator.

Like Hilliary isn't.

He told our religious right exactly what they wanted to hear regardless of the divisions he created.

And Hilliary pandered to her crowd also.

Stalin and Hitler also have been argued to be atheists, only one of them were between the two, but both had the ability to convince people to follow them. Hitler was his own brand of deist/occult/Catholic. Stalin prior to rising had a degree in theology. BOTH have an authoritarian view. Both preyed upon hyper nationalism and populism.

Ok then make a history thread and maybe I'll read it.

The very thing Reagan claimed to be fighting in the cold war, as well intended as he was, was the very domino he set up to allow for the GOP to pander to the worst of the far right.

Me Gorbachov, tear that wall down.

I would seriously warn you that Trump is not a left or right issue. I have said that consistently. He panders to a very dark past, he panders to the same xenophobia Hitler and Stalin did. He has sold Obama as "other" for 5 years long before he ran.

There you go with the SJW labels and name calling.

He is not concerned with raising people's income. He will simply do what Bush did, throw a bribe rebate at his supporters as the crumbs they will be and we will continue the global race to more cheap labor and poverty. 

What would he gain by doing this?

You do NOT have to take my word for it. A little economic research on YOUR part will show you that our pay gap is exploding and our 1% has the combined wealth of the majority of the middle class and working poor. What is even worse is that this has gone global in that 62 billionaires worldwide have the combined wealth of 3 billion humans.

Yawn.

Now, goat all you want.

[ReptilianPeon]

He told our religious right exactly what they wanted to hear regardless of the divisions he created.

And Hilliary pandered to her crowd also.

Ha-ha, yeah Mormons For Hilary totally wasn't a thing. Oh wait...

Hilary would rather grovel at the feet of Mormons than get the votes of people who liked Bernie. She lost because she is a Republican in all but party affiliation. The neo-cons ran to her in droves because she agrees with them, not because they had a change of heart.

Those allegedly "smart Republicans" (I loled at people who said endorsing Hilary all of a sudden makes those Republican establishment figures smart) who crowded around Hilary are still as cruel and heartless as ever. I would be ashamed if I got Bush-era neo-cons saying they'd endorse me. I'd want to know what I was doing wrong because I would hate to think I have a similar outlook on the world as they do.

[Brian37]

Again fuckwad, you can joke and insult all you want but your Jerry Springer reaction to our loss isn't going to change the truth.

WE ARE still a growingly liberal country. BOTH GORE and HILLARY won the popular vote as well as Bill and Obama.

WE fucked up yes so you wont get that argument from me. I am not joking about Trump being dangerous. He is politically dangerous for the same reason Hitler and Stalin's appeal to populism and the economically desperate were dangerous. PULL YOUR FUCKING HEAD out of your ass for a second.

I DON'T WANT CHE, I DONT WANT CUBA, I dont want the end of the private sector. GOT IT!

Now again, if you would do your homework on ECONOMIC history over the past century you should accept that the very same things that caused the great depression, were the no rules and bad gambling by the banks, the very same things that BUSH set up that OBAMA bailed them out.

The 1% is what both Bernie and Trump pointed out but only one Bernie, has every intent on doing something about it. Bernie was wise enough to know that blowing up the system, would cost us, but not enough of his followers understood why he ended up supporting Hillary.

BUT that still is no excuse. Even prior to this, traditionally speaking for decades, from Carter to Reagan to Bush and Bill, half our registered voters DONT VOTE. Our popular vote however would indicate if we did, Hillary would be president way beyond the margin of error that allowed the electoral college to end up with this result.

I AM TELLING YOU, with out malice or hate, outside hating that man as an individual, you have no clue what tone he has set. The hyper nationalism he sold won. It is the same hyper nationalism populism that lead to Hitler and Stalin and WW2 Japan. Humans have a very horrible short term memory. TRUMP is not about economics outside the fact he will hurt more people. Trump's hateful rhetoric and blaming everyone else IS FLAT OUT DANGEROUS.

"Those whom forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it"........I forgot whom said that, but it seems we are forgetting where hyper nationalism and hate lead.

[Doubting Thomas]

All I know is that I woke up this morning in Dumbfuckistan with no memory of how I got here.

The movie Idiocracy is quickly coming true.

Don't you dare to compare that unpleasant person Donald Trump to the great Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Drew Herbert Camacho!

In hindsight, I'm regretting not writing him in!