Karma poll

[SofaKingHigh]

Does that mean, the word is mean my little Prikky.

I need some help son.  
Explain to me why I (with no swearing at all) got two verbal warning in one month and you that swear all the time got nothing?
How the system works in here?  
Please help LR to understand.  

Aww Prikky, it's because I do it with a certain style, panache.....a joie de vive if you will.

You fucking melt.

[Thumpalumpacus]

You are a complete and total joke Thumpa.

1) First of all equivocating is not a word coming from the English language but a word coming from Latin
so to know some Latin is more useful than knowing English in this particular case.
And I did study a bit of Latin in my school days so I definitively know better than you the original meaning.

lol, I'm not talking about etymology, Riki-boy. I'm talking about current usage. And it is indeed a current word in the English language.

This will be your only warning: you're on my turf now, when we're talking about English.

2) Before you pulled out one more rabbit from your magician hat the discussion was about the fact that you said that ............ I feel a lot freer since I left the cage of faith...........
My reply to your point was that basically nobody can stop have faith in something so your point
didn't make any sense.
After that you came up with different stories in order to defend your initial story.
That's all.
So there is no need for you to keep on pulling out more and more rabbits from your hat. 

No. You see, you''re still equivocating. When you stop doing that, this conversation can move forward. Until then, I'll continue to regard your utterings as vapid and you yourself as generally useless.

[Tonus]

Instead of making criminals pay, karma could have put an obstacle in their way before they had the opportunity to hurt someone.

This obsession with universal laws or spiritual essences or gods that wait until bad things happen --or worse, that let people do bad things repeatedly and only 'stop' them after they die-- is confusing.  Can't someone come up with a god or a karma that stops bad things from happening instead of letting it happen so that it can visit more bad things on the perpetrator?  Why is karma so fucking evil and stupid?

[Little Rik]

You are a complete and total joke Thumpa.

1) First of all equivocating is not a word coming from the English language but a word coming from Latin
so to know some Latin is more useful than knowing English in this particular case.
And I did study a bit of Latin in my school days so I definitively know better than you the original meaning.

lol, I'm not talking about etymology, Riki-boy. I'm talking about current usage. And it is indeed a current word in the English language.

This will be your only warning: you're on my turf now, when we're talking about English.

2) Before you pulled out one more rabbit from your magician hat the discussion was about the fact that you said that ............ I feel a lot freer since I left the cage of faith...........
My reply to your point was that basically nobody can stop have faith in something so your point
didn't make any sense.
After that you came up with different stories in order to defend your initial story.
That's all.
So there is no need for you to keep on pulling out more and more rabbits from your hat. 

No. You see, you''re still equivocating. When you stop doing that, this conversation can move forward. Until then, I'll continue to regard your utterings as vapid and you yourself as generally useless.

I knew that you would pull out one more rabbit from your magician hat in order to salvage your sinking boat.      

[Little Rik]

I need some help son.  
Explain to me why I (with no swearing at all) got two verbal warning in one month and you that swear all the time got nothing?
How the system works in here?  
Please help LR to understand.  

Aww Prikky, it's because I do it with a certain style, panache.....a joie de vive if you will.

You fucking melt.

Gee, I never knew how clever you are Sof.  

Why don't you open up a swearing school?  

You could make millions considering your expertise in the field.  

[Little Rik]

Instead of making criminals pay, karma could have put an obstacle in their way before they had the opportunity to hurt someone.

This obsession with universal laws or spiritual essences or gods that wait until bad things happen --or worse, that let people do bad things repeatedly and only 'stop' them after they die-- is confusing.  Can't someone come up with a god or a karma that stops bad things from happening instead of letting it happen so that it can visit more bad things on the perpetrator?  Why is karma so fucking evil and stupid?

1) According to yoga Karma kicked in (so to speak) when the free will start and that is when lower form of life like animals merge into the human form.
Without free will there is not karma so karma does not apply to animals or plants.
Once you got free will karma must be there in order to restore the lost balance.

2) God act like a father towards his GROWN up kids.
And act exactly as you would do with YOUR grown up kids.
Now your grown up kids left home and you must let them do what they like in the good or the bad.

Why God should be blamed for what people do?
Would you be blamed for what your grown up kids do?

You never thought of that Ton, did you?  

[Tonus]

Once you got free will karma must be there in order to restore the lost balance.

Then karma is reactive, which is useless and stupid. Or did you not understand the point I was making?

Why God should be blamed for what people do?

I didn't say God should be blamed for what people do. I am pointing out that if God is going to get involved at all, it would be better to intercede at the point where people do not get hurt or cause others to suffer unnecessarily. God waits until it's far too late to avoid or stop the suffering, THEN dishes out a one-hell-fits-all style of punishment. Which is useless and stupid.

You never thought of that Ton, did you?

Of course not. Why would I ascribe such idiotic motives and stupid thinking to a person or concept that is supposed to embody justice?

The real question is-- why did YOU ever think of that?

[Little Rik]

Once you got free will karma must be there in order to restore the lost balance.

Then karma is reactive, which is useless and stupid.  Or did you not understand the point I was making?

Why God should be blamed for what people do?

I didn't say God should be blamed for what people do.  I am pointing out that if God is going to get involved at all, it would be better to intercede at the point where people do not get hurt or cause others to suffer unnecessarily.  God waits until it's far too late to avoid or stop the suffering, THEN dishes out a one-hell-fits-all style of punishment.  Which is useless and stupid.

You never thought of that Ton, did you?

Of course not.  Why would I ascribe such idiotic motives and stupid thinking to a person or concept that is supposed to embody justice?

The real question is-- why did YOU ever think of that?  

You can't get it Ton, do you?  

Life is all about learning very similar to a school.
If your students aren't good enough to pass to higher knowledge why would you pass them?
This is real justice not the opposite as you mean.

I really think you should understand the meaning of justice before you go any further Ton.  

[Tonus]

You can't get it Ton, do you?  

No, YOU don't get it. Which isn't surprising.

You're describing the world as it is, where karma and gods and spirits and other bullshit do not exist and where we are forced to react because we aren't mystical magical fairy creatures capable of 'balancing the universe' or whatever new-age garbage you like to peddle. You are describing an imperfect world filled with imperfect people yet claiming that there are these perfect beacons of justice working in the background but doing JUST AS SHITTY A JOB as those imperfect people.

So like I said-- useless and stupid. Tell karma to step up her fucking game already.

[Little Rik]

You can't get it Ton, do you?  

No, YOU don't get it.  Which isn't surprising.

You're describing the world as it is, where karma and gods and spirits and other bullshit do not exist and where we are forced to react because we aren't mystical magical fairy creatures capable of 'balancing the universe' or whatever new-age garbage you like to peddle.  You are describing an imperfect world filled with imperfect people yet claiming that there are these perfect beacons of justice working in the background but doing JUST AS SHITTY A JOB as those imperfect people.

So like I said-- useless and stupid.  Tell karma to step up her fucking game already.

Wrong again Ton.

You may think that this particular planet is the only one in the universe where life exist or that there are
no other dimensions in which life exist.
Of course in this way the life in this earthy dimension is pure depressing and sad but life according to yoga exist in all planes or level of existence so life on this particular planet may be garbage and imperfect but wait a minute Ton.
Other level of existence exist some less developed and other more developed.
We are in a transition phase.
Smart people learn without having to go through ...LEARNING FROM MISTAKES.......but most of the people
unfortunately learn from mistakes that is why life on earth is so depressing.

But at the end everybody will learn the lesson and everybody will pass the test and climb into
higher level of existence (atheists included).