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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 6:23 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 5:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 20, 2016 at 3:04 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: Joker, thank you for joining AF. It is cool that you want to study and learn more about atheistic thinking; however, I'm afraid the part in bold may come off to some as objectifying atheists rather than seeing them as people, which could impede your progress in establishing any kind of meaningful dialog with the atheist community here.
If I may, I have a question for you, sir. Have you come here with an open-mind, or are you here to confirm pre-existing stereotypes concerning atheism? IMO, if you engage AF with an open-mind, then you may find that there are plenty of people here who are kind, respectful, and intelligent. IMO, when interacting with people in certain contexts, their behavior, whether friendly or hostile, could be a direct result of how we handle the situation.
With that said, I wish you luck in your endeavors, sir. Thank you for your time and attention. Live long and prosper.
Oh man, I love this guy. Definitely getting my vote for best new member. 
I COULD be this polite with people but then everyone would assume I was possessed and I don't want to have holy water thrown on me again!!
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 6:27 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2016 at 6:27 pm by Tonus.)
God-forsaken wet t-shirt contests are the best ones, though.
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 6:35 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 6:27 pm)Tonus Wrote: God-forsaken wet t-shirt contests are the best ones, though.
I'd rather just get the girls out!
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 6:36 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 6:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (November 20, 2016 at 6:27 pm)Tonus Wrote: God-forsaken wet t-shirt contests are the best ones, though.
I'd rather just get the girls out!
And people complain about the atheistic way of thinking...
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 6:39 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 6:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (November 20, 2016 at 6:27 pm)Tonus Wrote: God-forsaken wet t-shirt contests are the best ones, though.
I'd rather just get the girls out!
We'd rather you did that as well...
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 6:45 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 6:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 20, 2016 at 6:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I'd rather just get the girls out!
We'd rather you did that as well...
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 6:58 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2016 at 7:07 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 20, 2016 at 12:15 pm)The Joker Wrote: You are rolling in my rotary wheel dilemma. True atheism is just one's status of belief concerning gods, nothing more, nothing less. My point is, how those beliefs effects the individual. You may be suffering from an overinflated assessment of your rhetorical skills, a cartoonish exageration of atheism, or both.
Quote:Again, I appreciate your point, but I am having trouble accepting that common argument from atheists, when getting deep into the cosmological argument "It doesn't mean God did it, so I lack belief in God".
I've never heard any atheist point to that as the reason that they don't believe, and it certainly has nothing to do with why I don;t believe. I've been an atheist, for example, for far longer than I've known of modern synth and before any god argument was ever presented to me.
That said, there is no "getting deep" into a cosmological argument, there is no cosmological argument.
Quote:If it can be proven that we didn't come here by an accident by mindless dumb evolution without meaning or purpose,then we obviously know God did it,
That would be a non-sequitur, not an argument. See above. It's also not a strictly factual description of the evolutionary history which lead to us or many of our associated species. Again, we didn't "come here", at all. Further, selection can be and often is mindful, intelligent, meaningful, and purposeful. We call that sort of selection artificial selection when we breed livestock and crops, for example, and "dating" when we do it to each other. So, if those are your pet peeves with evolution, what really grinds your gears, take heart...you can have it all. No need to deny reality and invoke fairies in order to get them.
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 9:13 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 6:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (November 20, 2016 at 6:27 pm)Tonus Wrote: God-forsaken wet t-shirt contests are the best ones, though.
I'd rather just get the girls out!
You wouldn't want to soak them first to get them good and perky?
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 9:14 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 6:45 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (November 20, 2016 at 6:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We'd rather you did that as well...
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity
November 20, 2016 at 9:35 pm
(November 20, 2016 at 9:13 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (November 20, 2016 at 6:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I'd rather just get the girls out!
You wouldn't want to soak them first to get them good and perky?
Why soak when you can have ice cubes?
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