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Another Royal Baby on the way
#41
RE: Another Royal Baby on the way
I do . . . .
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#42
RE: Another Royal Baby on the way
(November 30, 2016 at 11:30 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I'd probably agree with most of that, yeah.  To an American (me), it just seems like a celebrity culture on steroids, with a literally invulnerable revenue stream and all the responsibility of a glorified rubber stamp.  Not to say that members of the royal family haven't done good things, served in the armed forces, etc - but those things are good on their own, and I don't understand the people that think being a royal somehow adds to the merit, when perfectly normal Brits do that stuff every day without the unlimited wealth.

The problem with the royal family is that in order to oust them you'd have to play a dick move to do it.

Harry for instance is a fucking legend. I think practically everyone loves him. However I do not like the royal family as a thing. Individual members though, they're humans aren't they? Some of them are probably alright.

I'd like to see it gone, but in order to do so we'd have to literally violate their rights to achieve it I think. Unless it gets to a point where the royal family voluntarily gives up their privilege and status, someone's going to have to take it from them.
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#43
RE: Another Royal Baby on the way
I wouldn't call exceptional privilege and status a right.
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#44
RE: Another Royal Baby on the way
(December 1, 2016 at 3:11 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I wouldn't call exceptional privilege and status a right.

No, but is it your right to take it from them?
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#45
RE: Another Royal Baby on the way
(December 1, 2016 at 3:06 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(November 30, 2016 at 11:30 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I'd probably agree with most of that, yeah.  To an American (me), it just seems like a celebrity culture on steroids, with a literally invulnerable revenue stream and all the responsibility of a glorified rubber stamp.  Not to say that members of the royal family haven't done good things, served in the armed forces, etc - but those things are good on their own, and I don't understand the people that think being a royal somehow adds to the merit, when perfectly normal Brits do that stuff every day without the unlimited wealth.

The problem with the royal family is that in order to oust them you'd have to play a dick move to do it.

Harry for instance is a fucking legend. I think practically everyone loves him. However I do not like the royal family as a thing. Individual members though, they're humans aren't they? Some of them are probably alright.

I'd like to see it gone, but in order to do so we'd have to literally violate their rights to achieve it I think. Unless it gets to a point where the royal family voluntarily gives up their privilege and status, someone's going to have to take it from them.

Yeah, I can agree with that.  I'd much prefer people just stop giving a shit about them, though I suppose that's hard if your country's biggest celebrity family and (apparent) head of state, church, and armed forces are the same bunch of folks.

It'd be far easier if the royal family just gave up their 'authority' on their own, but I'm honestly not sure how I'd feel about a parliamentary act that takes it from them (their governmental role, not their money or social standing or anything like that). I mean, if it's a motion that's supported by the people and parliament, what's to stop parliament from cutting off the royal family's role in government?

That being said I know just about nothing about British constitutional law.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#46
RE: Another Royal Baby on the way
(December 1, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(December 1, 2016 at 3:11 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I wouldn't call exceptional privilege and status a right.

No, but is it your right to take it from them?

If their privilege and status conflicted with my interests as a citizen, it could be something to be contested.
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