My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees

[Macoleco]

Does what Syria and Russia are doing to those people seem out of character with the history of humanity?  

It's kind of silly.  America is here because our ancestors killed a lot of people.  A LOT of people.  And once they got everything they wanted, and were on top of the world, they said "Alright!  Time Out!  Killing's bad.  Everybody has to be nice now!"  

Indians:  Now that you guys admit conquering is bad, can we have our land back.
US: Sorry buddy, that was before we called timeout on conquering.  
US: *TIME IN!* invades Iraq *TIME OUT*
Syria: Doh! You guys are very quick with your times ins and outs!

What's your point? As time goes on and as we become more civilized, we learn from our mistakes, and things that were thought to be "ok" at one point, like slavery, rape, and genocide, are now seen as the monstrocities that they really are. It's disturbing to see someone saying that killing innocent ppl is a "fine" option just because it was viewed as ok at certain points in history. I'd like to think decent, civilized people have moved past that.

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This thread got really dark. Just wow.

Agreed. I think I need to leave. This is making me feel sick.

Is that so? If I recall correctly, you dont feel sick about the Vatican protecting child molesters. You even defend the vatican. Reconsider your morals.

[Amarok]

We must not lie to ourselves even if it makes us feel better. There are always unfortunate people around the world who suffer because of the decisions of other people. Not much to do about it. What we can do is try to be a decent human being, and thats it.

All of you who are playing the white knights, dont be hypocrites.

How many people around you need help, and you do nothing about it? Not even feel pity. Dont play the good guys when you dont move a finger to help those in need.

Speak for yourself

[Thumpalumpacus]

It's important because if you suddenly find that you have to leave your own country, because of war, how would you feel if no other country wanted you or your family because you were refugees? How would you feel if people judged you before they ever got to know you?

I would not expect anyone to help me. As I said some posts ago, I wouldnt  feel special compared to the other refugees. If someone helps me, great. If some dont, I wouldnt blame them because I wouldnt either.

That'd be a mighty cold world, I think.

[Seraphina]

We must not lie to ourselves even if it makes us feel better. There are always unfortunate people around the world who suffer because of the decisions of other people. Not much to do about it. What we can do is try to be a decent human being, and thats it.

All of you who are playing the white knights, dont be hypocrites.

How many people around you need help, and you do nothing about it? Not even feel pity. Dont play the good guys when you dont move a finger to help those in need.

Bold is mine.
Just how exactly do you know this? You don't. The only pitiful thing here is you projecting your own apathy onto others.

[Macoleco]

I would not expect anyone to help me. As I said some posts ago, I wouldnt  feel special compared to the other refugees. If someone helps me, great. If some dont, I wouldnt blame them because I wouldnt either.

That'd be a mighty cold world, I think.

It already is.

[Amarok]

We must not lie to ourselves even if it makes us feel better. There are always unfortunate people around the world who suffer because of the decisions of other people. Not much to do about it. What we can do is try to be a decent human being, and thats it.

All of you who are playing the white knights, dont be hypocrites.

How many people around you need help, and you do nothing about it? Not even feel pity. Dont play the good guys when you dont move a finger to help those in need.

Bold is mine.
Just how exactly do you know this? You don't. The only pitiful thing here is you projecting your own apathy onto others.

 
Apathy indeed just as wall tries to cloak his inhumanity in intellectual babble

[Catholic_Lady]

What's your point? As time goes on and as we become more civilized, we learn from our mistakes, and things that were thought to be "ok" at one point, like slavery, rape, and genocide, are now seen as the monstrocities that they really are. It's disturbing to see someone saying that killing innocent ppl is a "fine" option just because it was viewed as ok at certain points in history. I'd like to think decent, civilized people have moved past that.

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Agreed. I think I need to leave. This is making me feel sick.

Is that so? If I recall correctly, you dont feel sick about the Vatican protecting child molesters. You even defend the vatican. Reconsider your morals.

Um right. That's exactly what I said.

No, what I actually said was that I object to YOU fantasizing about killing every priest, bishop, Cardinal, and pope, because the vast majority of them had nothing to do with the molestation or with the cover ups. You know that. Way to purposely misrepresent.

And yeah... How silly of me to defend innocent ppl from those who fantasize about slaughtering them. You are a sick, twisted individual.

[Amarok]

That'd be a mighty cold world, I think.

It already is.

spoken like a true cynic

[Jesster]

Well one good thing came from this thread. I've realized that I am not the most depressed person here. Macoleco and wallym get to fight over that trophy.

[Macoleco]

Is that so? If I recall correctly, you dont feel sick about the Vatican protecting child molesters. You even defend the vatican. Reconsider your morals.

Um right. That's exactly what I said.

No, what I actually said was that I object to YOU fantasizing about killing every priest, bishop, Cardinal, and pope, because the vast majority of them had nothing to do with the molestation or with the cover ups. You know that. Way to purposely misrepresent.

And yeah... How silly of me to defend innocent ppl from those who fantasize about slaughtering them. You are a sick, twisted individual.

If you remember correctly, I stated many times on that thread I would not do that for real. Nor do I fantasize about it. Stop twisting my words to your convenience.

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Well one good thing came from this thread. I've realized that I am not the most depressed person here. Macoleco and wallym get to fight over that trophy.

Only those who see the world for what it is, and find the strenght to keep going are free.