Religion New York Atheists Angry Over 'Heaven' Street Sign Honoring Sept. 11 Victims?

[MilesTailsPrower]

Reading an article on fox news. Link: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/21/new...11victims/

Then it came up with an article about a new bible? Link: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/06/2...new-bible/

"The faith of atheism?" I don't honestly understand how atheism is our "faith"
2. Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

I don't believe in a god so I am the complete opposite of the definition. I don't base what i know on spiritual apprehension, I base it on PROOF.

"Silverman said he would not be surprised if atheists are vilified for their criticism of the street sign"

Exactly right knowing that some religions like to shove their religion down your throat I wouldn't be surprised if some cretin started raging because some people didn't "believe" in what he did. There were alternative names they could have made up for the street but they chose a name that had to refer to "god". They even knew that atheist would complain about it, so lets do it anyway to make us look like the bad person. They could have approached this in a better way but for some odd reason they are "dumbfounded" by their actions?

Why do they assume playing these childish games? Like a bunch of children arguing. Would they like it if we made a street sign honoring 9/11 victims that said "God is not real"?
They act like a bunch of hypocrites. Have they ever stopped and thought what it would be like if they were a CHRISTIAN in a ATHEIST nation?

So how about we all grow up and stop constantly starting fights they can't win.

Even the butter battle book by Dr. Seuss has more morals than the bible - http://www.teachpeace.com/drseussbutterbattle.htm

[Castle]

Why do they assume playing these childish games? Like a bunch of children arguing. Would they like it if we made a street sign honoring 9/11 victims that said "God is not real"?
They act like a bunch of hypocrites. Have they ever stopped and thought what it would be like if they were a CHRISTIAN in a ATHEIST nation?

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if Russia won the cold war rather than the US, would you perfer to live like the Russains

[Anymouse]

One wonders if the seven so "honoured" were in fact all Christians.

And in mentioning city names that incorporate Christian ideas, they failed to mention insignia, such as Virginia Beach's seal, which incorporates a Latin Cross. I had to tote one around on my city property tax sticker on my car the whole time I was stationed there, and defacing the city sticker (for example, by cutting the cross out of the sticker or pasting a pentacle over it) is illegal.

As to the question of public hearings on the street sign, I wonder how "public" those hearing actually were? And how does the mayor know, even if all seven were professed Christians, that they are all in Heaven? My understanding is a person's judgement covers all his life, not just the last hour.

It seems to me that such a name as "Seven Heroes Way" or something might be less offensive, and certainly avoid entanglement of endorsing religion. However, with the First Amendment in serious danger of actually being shredded, the point might become moot.

And the percentage given of self-professed Christians (89% or something like that) seems a bit high. Out of what hat did Mayor Bloomberg pull that rabbit?

The majority forgets that we are a Christian nation (if the number is right), but we are a Secular state. Novus ordo seculorum. Right on the back of the One Dollar Bill (under the "In God We Trust moniker that is actually a recent edition to the money.)

[Doubting Thomas]

It's Fox News. Of course they're going to stir up controversy and make atheists look like a bunch of angry assholes. But when a Muslim group were building a community center, they were all for stirring up controversy and implying that it shouldn't be allowed, because a "ground zero mosque" is offensive.

[Anymouse]

It's Fox News. Of course they're going to stir up controversy and make atheists look like a bunch of angry assholes. But when a Muslim group were building a community center, they were all for stirring up controversy and implying that it shouldn't be allowed, because a "ground zero mosque" is offensive.

I mentioned on another thread (or maybe this one) that (here in the new town I live in) a new neighbour got in an argument with me that ended with him trying to choke the life out of me, my wife beating back his arm with her cane, and him pushing her off her feet and storming out.

The offense was over a discussion of that mosque, and his response was: would we allow a Shinto shrine to be built near Pearl Harbor? After I pointed out on Mapquest seven Shinto shrines closer than the proposed mosque, he snapped in a fury of Christian love.

What gets me though is that so many so-called conservative Americans allow a foreigner like Rupert Murdoch tell them what to think. Next he'll run for the office of "Jesus."