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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 11:07 am
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2017 at 11:10 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I'd be hard pressed to find something that you would feel guilt about, from what I know of you here, sure. At what point will that become my problem? If -you- cant find an example of some inequity, some failure, some oppression, some injustice for which the perpetrators are accountable to you or can be influenced by you...then what we have is a failure of your basic humanity, not a failure to humor you in this thread. If it were me, I'd crow about it a little less.
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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 11:19 am
(January 3, 2017 at 11:07 am)Rhythm Wrote: I'd be hard pressed to find something that you would feel guilt about, from what I know of you here, sure. At what point will that become my problem? If -you- cant find an example of some inequity, some failure, some oppression, some injustice for which the perpetrators are accountable to you or can be influenced by you...then what we have is a failure of your basic humanity, not a failure to humor you in this thread. If it were me, I'd crow about it a little less.
Again, why should I feel guilty about those things?
I haven't oppressed anyone.
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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 11:22 am
(January 3, 2017 at 11:07 am)Rhythm Wrote: I'd be hard pressed to find something that you would feel guilt about, from what I know of you here, sure. At what point will that become my problem? If -you- cant find an example of some inequity, some failure, some oppression, some injustice for which the perpetrators are accountable to you or can be influenced by you...then what we have is a failure of your basic humanity, not a failure to humor you in this thread. If it were me, I'd crow about it a little less.
Wait. Are you still talking about race or did I skip a page?
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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 11:23 am
I hate it when I feel guilty for no reason.
That's why I spend my Saturday mornings oppressing orphans.
It's so nice to feel justified guilt for a change.
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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 11:28 am
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(January 3, 2017 at 11:19 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Again, why should I feel guilty about those things?
I haven't oppressed anyone. Why ask me a question that only you could answer? They exist to feel guilty about, regardless of whether or not you feel it personally. That's your call.
(January 3, 2017 at 11:22 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Wait. Are you still talking about race or did I skip a page? Insomuch as those institutional and personal abuses, failures, and oppression swirl around a particular demographic, yup. They certainly aren't limited to it, but those would be the only examples relevant to white guilt.
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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 11:31 am
Should I just apologise for being white?
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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 11:33 am
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As to your complicity, Bella...maybe you're just naive? Your stubbornly silent consent helps (and that's being generous...you aren't always so silently consenting, lol)...as does your productive output, any taxes you pay, your very existence as an object in need of "protetcion" against the other. These are your contributions to that effort.
IDK, should you apologize for being white? I thought that we were discussing white guilt...do you even know what that term refers to or will you be satisfied with parroting the bigots scripted resistance?
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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 11:41 am
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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 12:37 pm
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(January 3, 2017 at 11:19 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Again, why should I feel guilty about those things?
I haven't oppressed anyone.
But you're constantly arguing for doing so. Supporting the ones that are willing to oppress, supporting exclusivness.
No, noone should feel guilty over the past. Which doesn't give them license for being assholes today.
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RE: White Man's Guilt
January 3, 2017 at 2:30 pm
(January 2, 2017 at 3:50 pm)mcolafson Wrote: I have a question,
if a white man from Poland or Finland becomes an American citizen, should this man start feeling guilt that his Polish (or Finnish) ancestors somehow participated in the oppression of black slaves? or segregation?
A person should only feel guilty about the oppression of slaves if they participated in the oppression of slaves. Just like Germans should not feel guilty about killing jews unless they killed some jews.
You cant blame the current generations for the sins of the past. If you did that, Trump would be slated as a brothel owner like his great great grand dad and not for the massive monster he is himself.
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