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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 12:52 am
(February 3, 2017 at 12:32 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: (February 3, 2017 at 12:27 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Peeing prostitutes?? Hadn't heard that one yet. Is that new?
Well it's a rumor that's not backed up by anything solid. That Russia has a tape of Trump in Russia engaging in Golden Showers with prostitutes.
(February 3, 2017 at 12:24 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Politicians who pander to the religousites need to comport themselves accordingly.
BTW, it doesn't seem people really know what 'pander' means anymore. It's not a good thing.
From Wiki:
Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal. The term is most notably associated with politics. In pandering, the views one is expressing are merely for the purpose of drawing support up to and including votes and do not necessarily reflect one's personal values.
Every politician panders to religious people. So that disqualifies them all.
I think you are basically just saying that Republicans aren't allowed to have sex scandals and Democrats are.
Close, only criticize pubs for it, unless the dem is diddling children.
I might be altering my views though, religiosities knowingly, openly and notoriously embracing obvious apostates, heretics and/or blasphemers are discrediting religion to a greater, faster, and more encompassing level than a whole flock of atheists ever could.
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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 10:41 am
Bill Clinton was also against gay marriage back when he cheated on his wife and was accused of rape. People don't seem to mind.
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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 10:44 am
(February 3, 2017 at 10:41 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Bill Clinton was also against gay marriage back when he cheated on his wife and was accused of rape. People don't seem to mind.
Yup. I would have minded. I think getting caught and lying about it was disqualifying, too.
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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 10:57 am
(February 3, 2017 at 12:42 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Another sexcapade that should disqualify a pol: Discussing confidential or secret materials with one's lover, as happened not too long back Petraeus, if I remember correctly.
I agree.
As far as sexual misconduct, I don't care about the state of this or that politician's marriage but I do care if they foolishly put themselves in a position where they can be blackmailed. If you're ambitious enough to climb that high, you should have the discipline to keep it in your pants.
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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 12:11 pm
There are only a few times when a sex scandal in politics is releveant:
#1. When a sack of shit (Let's call him Newt) wants to legislate what you can do in your bedroom, and what gender you're allowed to marry... has an extramarital affair
#2. When a fucked-up piece of shit (Let's call him Dennis) molested a little boy
#3. When it's non-consensual
#4. When a sack of shit (Let's call him Newt again) claims to be for family values, and cheats on his 2nd wife
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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 12:20 pm
(February 3, 2017 at 12:06 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: I was wondering at what line do you start caring about a sex scandal with a politician? At what point should a sex scandal disqualify a politician from office? I'm just interested at what everybody's personal line is? If Trump really paid hookers to pee on him, does that disqualify him? What about Bill Clinton and Monica? What is your personal line for when sex scandals disqualifies someone?
It depends on the scandal.
For example in the Profumo case a senior British government minister was sharing a mistress with a senior Russian official.
And in the case of Trump he has a series of allegations against him including the alleged rape of a thirteen year old which makes you wonder how much of a sexual predator are you willing to accept in your leaders.
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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 12:35 pm
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(February 3, 2017 at 12:11 pm)Divinity Wrote: There are only a few times when a sex scandal in politics is releveant:
#1. When a sack of shit (Let's call him Newt) wants to legislate what you can do in your bedroom, and what gender you're allowed to marry... has an extramarital affairs
#2. When a fucked-up piece of shit (Let's call him Dennis) molested a little boy
#3. When it's non-consensual
#4. When a sack of shit (Let's call him Newt again) claims to be for family values, and cheats on his 2nd wife
There, fixed that for you. Newt is famous (well, notorious) for even cheating on his mistresses.
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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 12:52 pm
Generally I don't really care what they do in their private lives, as long as they aren't raping people. Bill gave us a deficit surplus, but everyone probably just remembers him as the guy that got a blow job. That seems like something between Hillary and Bill, that the general people should be as focused on, as they are about issues that actually effect their lives.
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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 1:18 pm
If the sex is consensual, for me, it's not so much the act but the collateral damage that often surrounds the act.
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RE: When is a sex scandal relevant?
February 3, 2017 at 1:23 pm
(February 3, 2017 at 12:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Generally I don't really care what they do in their private lives, as long as they aren't raping people. Bill gave us a deficit surplus, but everyone probably just remembers him as the guy that got a blow job. That seems like something between Hillary and Bill, that the general people should be as focused on, as they are about issues that actually effect their lives.
That's a fine point of view to have, so long as you think the same way about Trump's affairs.
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