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RE: Daily Heil banned from Wikipedia
February 9, 2017 at 2:03 pm
(February 9, 2017 at 7:32 am)Bella Morte Wrote: 'Daily Heil'
That's cute.
Come on, you can be a bit more creative than that!
Round the MOD it is commonly referred to as the daily fail.
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February 9, 2017 at 2:05 pm
An important thing for right-wing people to remember is that not pandering to your own political views is not the same thing as being left-wing spin.
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RE: Daily Heil banned from Wikipedia
February 9, 2017 at 2:12 pm
(February 9, 2017 at 10:02 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote: Compared to the likes of the Daily Mail, Breitbart and Fox News, Russia Today is very reliable. Let's not pretend the likes of The New York Times and CNN are any more reliable than RT. Most of the people working at the New York Times and CNN, for example, just pump out whatever the DNC tells them to. Hence Donna Brazille left CNN because we found out how she sneaked questions to Hilary.
Oh fuck off, that is like saying the Washington Post during Watergate and Nixon was a left wing conspiracy rag.
It isn't a fucking conspiracy. I would only say that news media DOES spend too much time chasing ratings but that is not a conspiracy in as much it is that businesses seek to sell add space and controversy sells.
The CEOs of CNN and cable and network news are economic conservatives. It is unfortunately why MSNBC has gutted most of it's sane staff and put morons like Joe on in the morning. Being liberal isnt a slur or a crime. It was LIBERAL ideas that got women the right to vote. It was liberal ideas that ended segregation. It was liberal ideas that gained LGBT the right to marry.
The GOP of Lincoln were liberals, the GOP we see today are a product of the "southern strategy" which caused the parties to flip. Trump is simply a product of old fucking assholes who don't want to face that time is passing them by.
The only thing my party can be accused of for the past 36 years is not having enough of a backbone to stand up to the real corporate welfare queens and the backwoods thinking dark age far right.
Our voters gave up when Reagan successfully busted the airline unions, and since then we have sucked at turnout in both even and odd years and only manage to win a majority a fraction of that same time. The presidency in that 36 years has only been held by dems 16 of those years. And in that same time dems have only had all three branches a FRACTION of that 36 years. The GOP has a majority of state houses and governors and has had that since they started their lopsided gerrymandering.
I am sick of the right painting liberals as commies or anti private sector. I am equally sick at some painting both parties as the same. HUGE difference between politicians and voters ideas. There is NOTHING wrong with taxing the rich, that is fucking bullshit to call it robbery. Regulations are why car companies GET RICH selling safety features like air bags seat belts anti lock breaks. Regulations are what SHOULD keep led out of water. Regulations being violated are why Toyota and VW can be sued AND SHOULD BE SUED.
If always letting the rich do what they want, there would be no need for voting because nobody would be complaining. If letting the rich do what they want all the time never hurt anyone we would never have had Bush's triple whammy crash. Trump is running for that same party, and whatever short term feel good his voters might feel now, will simply end up in a future crash in 4 or 8 years depending.
It is media's job to be our watchdog, but media right now, the major networks and cable news need to do what the New York Times is rightfully doing. They need to go back to what the Washington Post did in nabbing Nixon. I wish the Networks and cable news WERE liberal like they once were, Trump never would have gotten as far as he did. That asshole said he would not involve himself in family business but vilified Norstrom for doing what every FREE MARKET business has the right to do, and not because they were wrong, but Trump REALLY is acting like the Nepotist he really is. Trump Jr as well as Kellyanne Conway also unethically using their positions to promote cronyism and family nepotism. On top of Trump STILL not doing what the IRS says he can do any time he wants and release his taxes.
I wish most media were that liberal, but corporate media isn't doing what NYT or Washington post are but they should. OUR national security and republic depend on it.
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RE: Daily Heil banned from Wikipedia
February 9, 2017 at 2:13 pm
(February 9, 2017 at 1:49 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Centrist?
Have you recently smoked a bunch of crystal meth by any chance? There's nothing centrist about the BBC, it's a leftist propaganda machine that occasionally reports the odd unbiased story every now and then.
Could you link me a few recent articles that have leftist propaganda in them? That would help.
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RE: Daily Heil banned from Wikipedia
February 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm
(February 9, 2017 at 7:32 am)Bella Morte Wrote: 'Daily Heil'
That's cute.
Come on, you can be a bit more creative than that!
How about 'Daily Shitbag That Can Only Be Called "News" By Someone With Low Standards And A Generous Disposition'?
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February 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2017 at 2:35 pm by Aroura.)
hahaha, I went to do some research, and it seems that far left people think the BBC is right wing, and the far right think it's left wing.
This just proves my point. It is actually pretty much in the center, so both extremes see it as as leaning AWAY form them (which it is, because they are on the extreme ends), but it is not actually leaning to the other side, just away from their extreme.
http://www.nomagic.org.uk/is-the-bbc-lef...right-wing
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/the-b...t-or-right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC
I'm still waiting for links to the blatant leftist propaganda. I have all day.
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RE: Daily Heil banned from Wikipedia
February 9, 2017 at 2:40 pm
(February 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Aroura Wrote: hahaha, I went to do some research, and it seems that far left people think the BBC is right wing, and the far right think it's left wing.
This just proves my point. It is actually pretty much in the center, so both extremes see it as as leaning AWAY form them (which it is, because they are on the extreme ends), but it is not actually leaning to the other side, just away from their extreme.
http://www.nomagic.org.uk/is-the-bbc-lef...right-wing
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/the-b...t-or-right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC
NO stop using media to imply both parties are the same, that is bullshit. Stop confusing business with a layperson citizen. Media can only be rightfully accused of creating controversy to sell add space. Viewers are consumers not the politicians themselves not the media themselves.
THE CEOS of corp media ARE economic conservatives, they want controversy to sell add space. But not even then does that mean every single anchor or journalist is a conservative. It just means the CEOs have far too much control over them. A free press is VITAL to act as a watchdog for ANY PARTY. But don't confuse that with the voter themselves.
Most media IS NOT in the center, global corporate media is like any business, controversy sells add space. It takes an NYT or Nixon Washington Journalist, to be the watchdog, not corporate CEOs.
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RE: Daily Heil banned from Wikipedia
February 9, 2017 at 2:46 pm
(February 9, 2017 at 2:40 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (February 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Aroura Wrote: hahaha, I went to do some research, and it seems that far left people think the BBC is right wing, and the far right think it's left wing.
This just proves my point. It is actually pretty much in the center, so both extremes see it as as leaning AWAY form them (which it is, because they are on the extreme ends), but it is not actually leaning to the other side, just away from their extreme.
http://www.nomagic.org.uk/is-the-bbc-lef...right-wing
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/the-b...t-or-right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC
NO stop using media to imply both parties are the same, that is bullshit. Stop confusing business with a layperson citizen. Media can only be rightfully accused of creating controversy to sell add space. Viewers are consumers not the politicians themselves not the media themselves.
THE CEOS of corp media ARE economic conservatives, they want controversy to sell add space. But not even then does that mean every single anchor or journalist is a conservative. It just means the CEOs have far too much control over them. A free press is VITAL to act as a watchdog for ANY PARTY. But don't confuse that with the voter themselves.
Most media IS NOT in the center, global corporate media is like any business, controversy sells add space. It takes an NYT or Nixon Washington Journalist, to be the watchdog, not corporate CEOs. I never...said....any of that? Where did I say both parties are the same? Where am I confusing news with laypersons? I was referring to how laypersons view the news, not how they are the same as....
It's like people just hear what they want to hear. Again, thank you to you and Bella both for pretty much proving my point.
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RE: Daily Heil banned from Wikipedia
February 9, 2017 at 3:03 pm
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(February 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How about 'Daily Shitbag That Can Only Be Called "News" By Someone With Low Standards And A Generous Disposition'?
Boru
Very creative.
So tell me, where do you get your news from?
(February 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Aroura Wrote: I'm still waiting for links to the blatant leftist propaganda. I have all day.
I'm just going to admit that I don't have many links for you, however some of their coverage of President Trump and Brexit that I have seen has been quite biased, they appear to give a lot more airtime to those who supported the remain campaign. They call ISIS the 'so-called Islamic State' (you can easily find that one on your own) and have given "refugees" positive coverage while ignoring the rape attacks in Europe and the fact that the "child" "refugees" who entered the UK last year clearly weren't children.
Here's some "refugee" propaganda
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38918317
Child refugee? Don't think so.
I'll be sure to keep my eye out for anymore and have bookmarked the thread, just for you.
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RE: Daily Heil banned from Wikipedia
February 9, 2017 at 3:08 pm
(February 9, 2017 at 3:03 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: (February 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How about 'Daily Shitbag That Can Only Be Called "News" By Someone With Low Standards And A Generous Disposition'?
Boru
Very creative.
So tell me, where do you get your news from?
(February 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Aroura Wrote: I'm still waiting for links to the blatant leftist propaganda. I have all day.
I'm just going to admit that I don't have many links for you, however some of their coverage of President Trump and Brexit that I have seen has been quite biased, they appear to give a lot more airtime to those who supported the remain campaign. They call ISIS the 'so-called Islamic State' (you can easily find that one on your own) and have given "refugees" positive coverage while ignoring the rape attacks in Europe and the fact that the "child" "refugees" who entered the UK last year clearly weren't children.
Here's some "refugee" propaganda
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38918317
Child refugee? Don't think so.
I'll be sure to keep my eye out for anymore and have bookmarked the thread, just for you.
Erm...specifically in regards to the article you linked...where's the propaganda? They're literally reporting what various people in the British gov't have said about the Dub Amendment, from both points of view.
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