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RE: The GOP once again suppressing voters who disagree with them
June 19, 2017 at 10:21 am
Keep college people from voting. Trump loves uneducated people.
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RE: The GOP once again suppressing voters who disagree with them
June 20, 2017 at 7:46 am
(June 18, 2017 at 6:47 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Gerrymandering dates back to revolutionary times.
Not what I am saying. Yes that is true. But for the most part it has not gotten this lopsided since the end of the great depression. The GOP since Reagan has been successful in creating an extremely lopsided map.
I am hoping beyond hope that there is at least some objectivity left in the majority GOP SCOTUS to uphold lower courts who have called voter laws and district map making unconstitutional.
The founders set up political competition yes, but they never wanted any one group to gain a severe lopsided advantage. Unfortunately that is exactly what has grown since Reagan.
It also does not help that liberals sit home in midterms.
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RE: The GOP once again suppressing voters who disagree with them
June 20, 2017 at 9:56 am
it also doesn't help when the dems don't realize they need to campaign to those stay at home liberals who think unfavorable election results can be invalidated by special pleading, divine intervention, executive fiat, or deus ex mechina
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RE: The GOP once again suppressing voters who disagree with them
June 20, 2017 at 10:45 am
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IDK, the dems became the party of appeasement...and it seems like this might have hurt their brand. How will further appeasement to another group that doesn't want to vote for them help. Chasing the "moderate" republican vote didn't pan out, for example.
"Unfavorable election results", lol..you're a master of understatement Vor. I don;t think that the dems..at this point, have to count on any of that in order to invalidate those results. Treason, collusion, obstruction..these things will do the trick.
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RE: The GOP once again suppressing voters who disagree with them
June 20, 2017 at 10:47 am
it's wordy too . . . .
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RE: The GOP once again suppressing voters who disagree with them
June 20, 2017 at 10:48 am
and snarky . . .
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RE: The GOP once again suppressing voters who disagree with them
June 20, 2017 at 3:55 pm
(June 18, 2017 at 8:39 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: it's not when the dems are in charge of doing it . . .
Nobody should be doing it.
Look, in any form of political pluralism, there is going to be a slight advantage to someone, that is what long term compromise looks like. But if we don't want the pendulum swinging as far to the right as it has, then we too should not be advocating lopsidedness on our part either.
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RE: The GOP once again suppressing voters who disagree with them
June 20, 2017 at 4:22 pm
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(June 18, 2017 at 5:03 am)It_Was_me Wrote: Wait, what ever happened to "Get over it! You lost!"
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\I would like to point out that the district this guy is from is fairly Liberal in itself, even without a college campus nearby.
http://tucson.com/news/local/lawmaker-se...e91de.html
I just read the article. As far as I am concerned, it does not matter if a student lives on or near campus within a political voting district for 2 years, 4 years, or 8 years or so, that student is a RESIDENT in that district. Any law passed in that district or state will have an impact, either positively or negatively to that student. Of course they have a right to vote.
This is just another attempt by Republicans to disenfranchise people. It is a shitty move by Conservative assholes.
(June 18, 2017 at 7:04 am)Tizheruk Wrote: And watch the conservatives on this site go silent
I hear nothing but crickets.
(June 18, 2017 at 4:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I suppose if you can't "suppress" them you can always shoot them. Naturally, the proposal comes from a southern, gun nut, republicunt fuckhead.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/a-wake-...-shooting/
Quote:‘A wake-up call’: Kentucky Republican warns colleagues to arm themselves at town halls after Scalise shooting
Quote:Speaking with host Abby Huntsman, Massie said that lawmakers are putting themselves at risk when they go out on public and should get a concealed carry permit and arm themselves — including when they face angry constituents at town halls.
Maybe if you weren't always such fucking cunts you wouldn't have to face angry constituents all the time.
I propose that Congressmen and any politician who do not listen to their constituents should be tarred and feathered. They don't necessarily have to be shot, but if they keep up their bullshit maybe they should be shot. People have had it it with the elected. Civil war, revolution, or coup d'estat, does not matter, shit is going to hit the fan if things don't start turning around. Again, I implore my fellow Progressives and Seculars to organize into militias. We will have to defend ourselves one day.
(June 18, 2017 at 5:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (June 18, 2017 at 1:15 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Picking and choosing your voters seems to be a recent GOP-only phenomenon.
I wish I could call in certain conservative posters here, but we all know it's the violent leftists who heap scorn upon inoffensive, mute rightists, right?
Apparently taking away or hindering voting is somehow "American" for bastards...
Um no it is not new. The district map making, from my understanding is controlled by the winning party. The real problem of gerrymandering started 36 years ago with Reagan. The GOP controls the majority of state congresses and Governorships. The long term trend has to copy one law from one state and xerox it in another.
I do think that this was part of the plan all along after the Right Wing took over the Republican Party. This is how one brings Dominionists into power. They already infest our military.
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