How Catholic was Hitler?

[Wyrd of Gawd]

If Hitler had won the war he would have taken on the additional title of Pope.

[Pat Mustard]

As a devout Catholic, I have some real problems with people saying Hitler was "one of us"

It is extraordinarily shameful and embarrassing to hear that kind of shit coming from peoples lips, and quite frankly not even correct.

First of all, I don't think Hitler was an atheist. He said much to the effect of God being on his side, though I think he meant more destiny and the universe rather than Jehovah himself.

True he was baptized into the Catholic Church in his little town in Austria. But practically all gentile Austrians at that time were Roman Catholic. If Hitler were born in Denmark, he would have been Lutheran, and Anglican if he had been born in England.


What Im saying is one's degree of adherence and respect for one's faith surely matters instead of none at all. 

Hitler didn't even reference his love for the Catholic faith when on the campaign trail, more just his reverence for Jesus/Christinaity in general (I suppose it was must given how a slight majority of Germany was Protestant at the time .)

Kind of terrible that he basically won the Christian vote, but that is a topic for a different time.

Did he ever evidence Catholic devotion outside of the campaign trail/public events? Did he and Eva Braun, the woman he lived in sin with ever go to bible studies or say the rosary? Id love to see any evidence that they actually did.

There were plenty of Catholic shrines in occupied Europe at the time. Why didn't the Nazis ever organize pilgrimages to see them in stead to their drunk,degenerate icons such as Horst Wessel and others?

My main point is that Hitler's nominal Catholicism was incidental, as opposed to the driving force behind his anti-semitism and shiftiness in general.

Nazism was at its core a materialistic philosophy, concerned with the material only as opposed to the spiritual. What it wanted was just the supremacy of the Nordic (Northern European race), the enslavement of the Eastern Europeans to achieve that end, and the elimination of European Jewry( apparently a liberalizing, cosmopolitan force.)

I am fairly certain the source of Nazi anti-semitism was not the Traditionalist Christian variety, but the more modern version of the Zionist/Rothchild cabal of world finance  trying to undermine and destroy the "Goy"  .

I don't believe he viewed the Pope as a friend, and he and many high ranking Nazis were frustrated and suspicious of the Catholic Church, since it was an entity that they could never control (unlike those poor fragmented Protestant ones.)

I believe one has to somewhat adhere to Catholic doctrine in order to be a Catholic in a meanginful, serious way.

Is there any evidence Hitler's Catholicism was something he took seriously and loved, or was it just some sort of tribal identification which he never gave much of a thought (the latter is depressingly common in todays Catholic world.)

For being a devout Catholic he sure was mean and cruel to his fellow Catholics. How do you explain this scene and a devoutly Catholic Hitler? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV9H7aWgPv8

I sure hope those nuns weren't sent to Dachau!

He was doctrinaire catholic, just like the thousands of child raping priests and the nuns who buried babies in a sewage tank rather than revealing they'd starved them.

[Losty]

I wasn't aware that there were different levels of catholicness. Do you get a prize for leveling up?

[Mr.wizard]

I wasn't aware that there were different levels of catholicness. Do you get a prize for leveling up?

Yes, the idea is to reach level "Jew", because that's where the money is at.

[Pat Mustard]

I think the Catholic clerics were deceived.

Keep in mind the Holocaust did not start to happen until 1941 or so.

Hitler even did some admirable things according to the Church.

1. He shut down the lustful filthy Berlin nightclub scene. Before the Big H came on the scene Berlin was a den of filth and sin, with hookers,drag shows and "gay" clubs being all the rage. Watch "Cabaret" to get the full story.

2. He helped Franco rise to power. Unlike Mussolinni or Hitler, I actually think Franco was pretty decent. He helped impose Catholic morality on Spain and stop from becoming an iron curtain country (which those bolshevik/communsits would have certainly done.

3. He helped the poor. He helped Germany stop being so poor and gave all "gentile" Germans jobs.

If the Church had known about the gas chambers etc, they would have been up in arms. But sadly they did not.

Even as such many Catholics opposed Hitler.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_resistance_to_Nazi_Germany


Did you not know that a Roman Catholic came very very close to killing Der Fuhrer?

This man was extraordinary and I hope he becomes a saint:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claus_von_Stauffenberg

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I think the Catholic clerics were deceived.

Keep in mind the Holocaust did not start to happen until 1941 or so.

Hitler even did some admirable things according to the Church.

1. He shut down the lustful filthy Berlin nightclub scene. Before the Big H came on the scene Berlin was a den of filth and sin, with hookers,drag shows and "gay" clubs being all the rage. Watch "Cabaret" to get the full story.

2. He helped Franco rise to power. Unlike Mussolinni or Hitler, I actually think Franco was pretty decent. He helped impose Catholic morality on Spain and stop from becoming an iron curtain country (which those bolshevik/communsits would have certainly done.

3. He helped the poor. He helped Germany stop being so poor and gave all "gentile" Germans jobs.

If the Church had known about the gas chambers etc, they would have been up in arms. But sadly they did not.

Even as such many Catholics opposed Hitler.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_resistance_to_Nazi_Germany


Did you not know that a Roman Catholic came very very close to killing Der Fuhrer?

This man was extraordinary and I hope he becomes a saint:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claus_von_Stauffenberg

The only man who came close to killing Hitler was an atheist and communist, Georg Eisler. The July 20th plot was a cack handed attempt by a few aristocrats who hated Hitler only because he was a commoner.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The only man who came close to killing Hitler was an atheist and communist, Georg Eisler. The July 20th plot was a cack handed attempt by a few aristocrats who hated Hitler only because he was a commoner.

It's a funny understanding you have of those events.

[brewer]

I wasn't aware that there were different levels of catholicness. Do you get a prize for leveling up?

Yes, a nifty hat and robe. Slippers on the next level.

[Pat Mustard]

The only man who came close to killing Hitler was an atheist and communist, Georg Eisler. The July 20th plot was a cack handed attempt by a few aristocrats who hated Hitler only because he was a commoner.

It's a funny understanding you have of those events.

Schenk von Stauffenberg and von Treskow were both under the influence of Stefan George and his brand of far right authoritarianism. Their problem with Hitler were that he wasn't aristocratic enough.

[Harry Nevis]

2. He helped Franco rise to power. Unlike Mussolinni or Hitler, I actually think Franco was pretty decent. He helped impose Catholic morality on Spain and stop from becoming an iron curtain country (which those bolshevik/communsits would have certainly done.

Imposing morality.  How is that in any way decent?  You're amazing.  And not in a good way.

[downbeatplumb]

I wasn't aware that there were different levels of catholicness. Do you get a prize for leveling up?

They get to wear a slightly more ridiculous hat.