The Space Worm Conundrum

[Amarok]

Fool the sand gods have existed beyond time and need to before . (FYI neither does the universe that's assertion not a fact .And no you can't point to anything within the universe and compare it to the universe . What applies to the units in a set need not apply to the set itself . Just because x does not appear uncaused without prior substance. Does not mean y cannot.

[Godscreated]

 This is a rarity for me because I do not usually respond to things that could never be. I'm going to because it's such a unthoughtworthy (turns out that's not a word but I believe hypothetically you understand) comment.
 
First of all you gave no indication where the thoughtless slug came from. Second the little poop the slug took was a biological process and one that is impossible because the slug had nothing to eat because there was not universe a for it to feed in. Third those two things defeat all the other presumptions you made.

GC

Sluggo has always existed and existed outside the universe.

The "poop" popped into existence without any requirement for an outside source.

 Sorry the hypothetical has already been presented, it was give as is and I used what was given.

GC

[The Valkyrie]

Sluggo has always existed and existed outside the universe.

The "poop" popped into existence without any requirement for an outside source.

 Sorry the hypothetical has already been presented, it was give as is and I used what was given.

GC

But, like any religions, we're making shit up to fill in the gaps.

And, obviously, not the entire story was presented in the initial presentation.

[Amarok]

 Sorry the hypothetical has already been presented, it was give as is and I used what was given.

Yeah but like everything else here you failed . And others succeeded

[Little lunch]

At least there would be no arguments as to whether it was a he or she god.

[vorlon13]

Poop is just another word for ylem.


From Wiki:

Ylem is a term that was used by George Gamow, his student Ralph Alpher, and their associates in the late 1940s for a hypothetical original substance or condensed state of matter, which became subatomic particles and elements as we understand them today. The term ylem was actually resuscitated (it appears in Webster's Second "the first substance from which the elements were supposed to have been formed") by Ralph Alpher.
In modern understanding, the "ylem" described as by Gamow was the primordial plasma, formed in baryogenesis, which underwent Big Bang nucleosynthesis and was opaque to radiation. Recombination of the charged plasma into neutral atoms made the Universe transparent at the age of 380,000 years, and the radiation released is still observable as cosmic microwave background radiation.

[Redbeard The Pink]

 This is a rarity for me because I do not usually respond to things that could never be. I'm going to because it's such a unthoughtworthy (turns out that's not a word but I believe hypothetically you understand) comment.

 
Oh boy...something tells me you're not one of those people who's good at entertaining hypotheticals

First of all you gave no indication where the thoughtless slug came from.

Interesting...you're the second person to bring this up. Does it matter where it came from? It created the Universe. Where would it have to come from to count as a god?

Second the little poop the slug took was a biological process and one that is impossible because the slug had nothing to eat because there was not universe a for it to feed in. Third those two things defeat all the other presumptions you made.

GC

Oh boy...yeah, I can see you're having a hard time with this one.

For the purpose of this hypothetical, we're assuming that the slug was in fact able to poop, and that poop did in fact result in our universe. Make whatever leaps are necessary to assume those things. Perhaps it existed in a previous universe that had plenty of food until that universe was annihilated by ours being created. Maybe this slug does not need anything around it in order to poop. This is a nonsense object we're talking about here. Play with it.

Does the slug need to do anything besides create our universe in order to be called god? What other qualities would this creature have to have before it would qualify as a god to you?

[Godscreated]

 Sorry the hypothetical has already been presented, it was give as is and I used what was given.

GC

But, like any religions, we're making shit up to fill in the gaps.

And, obviously, not the entire story was presented in the initial presentation.

It was a hypothetical, nothing to do with reality, I took the challenge and showed the flaws and that's that.

GC

[Godscreated]

 This is a rarity for me because I do not usually respond to things that could never be. I'm going to because it's such a unthoughtworthy (turns out that's not a word but I believe hypothetically you understand) comment.

 
Oh boy...something tells me you're not one of those people who's good at entertaining hypotheticals

They are generally a waste of time because they have no point in reality, I did this one to show you just that.

First of all you gave no indication where the thoughtless slug came from.

Interesting...you're the second person to bring this up. Does it matter where it came from? It created the Universe. Where would it have to come from to count as a god?

First of all it couldn't have created the universe and I explained why. Yes it would have made a difference, we know nothing about this slug, other than it can poop without eating.

Second the little poop the slug took was a biological process and one that is impossible because the slug had nothing to eat because there was not a universe for it to feed in. Third those two things defeat all the other presumptions you made.

GC

Oh boy...yeah, I can see you're having a hard time with this one.

I found it rather easy to take apart.

For the purpose of this hypothetical, we're assuming that the slug was in fact able to poop, and that poop did in fact result in our universe. Make whatever leaps are necessary to assume those things. Perhaps it existed in a previous universe that had plenty of food until that universe was annihilated by ours being created. Maybe this slug does not need anything around it in order to poop. This is a nonsense object we're talking about here. Play with it.

That's the problem with these things their nonsense and contribute nothing to reality, they are a waste of time, time I'd rather spend doing something else. I knew I should have left this thing alone. Now to play just a bit more, as I said pooping is a biological process, there's nothing supernatural or creative about it.
 

Does the slug need to do anything besides create our universe in order to be called god? What other qualities would this creature have to have before it would qualify as a god to you?

 Yes it needs to have not been created but rather existed for eternity, it needed to be omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. It needed to be morally perfect to be worthy of worship and capable of creating a perfect universe even knowing the created would corrupt it's perfection. It also would have had to have an eternal plan to right what the created corrupted. The slug meets none of this, all it did was poop.

GC

[Redbeard The Pink]

 
Oh boy...something tells me you're not one of those people who's good at entertaining hypotheticals

They are generally a waste of time because they have no point in reality, I did this one to show you just that.

No, what you did was fail to participate in a thought exercise.

First of all it couldn't have created the universe and I explained why.

No, you refused to entertain the first hypothetical circumstance. I'm asking you try to think as you would if there were truly a space slug that truly created your universe in an act of Deus ex merda, and your response is basically to say "I lack sufficient imagination to accept that assumption and participate in the exercise."

Yes it would have made a difference, we know nothing about this slug, other than it can poop without eating.

Incorrect. You also know that it created our universe by pooping because I said so. That is how hypotheticals work.

I found it rather easy to take apart.

This wasn't an argument. This was a hypothetical thought exercise. You don't take those apart. I essentially asked you to play pretend. How hard is that?

For the purpose of this hypothetical, we're assuming that the slug was in fact able to poop, and that poop did in fact result in our universe. Make whatever leaps are necessary to assume those things. Perhaps it existed in a previous universe that had plenty of food until that universe was annihilated by ours being created. Maybe this slug does not need anything around it in order to poop. This is a nonsense object we're talking about here. Play with it.

That's the problem with these things their nonsense and contribute nothing to reality, they are a waste of time, time I'd rather spend doing something else. I knew I should have left this thing alone. Now to play just a bit more, as I said pooping is a biological process, there's nothing supernatural or creative about it.

So what if it were a supernatural poop?
 

 Yes it needs to have not been created but rather existed for eternity, it needed to be omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. It needed to be morally perfect to be worthy of worship and capable of creating a perfect universe even knowing the created would corrupt it's perfection. It also would have had to have an eternal plan to right what the created corrupted. The slug meets none of this, all it did was poop.

GC

Ok, so let's say this is an eternal, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, morally perfect space slug that's capable of pooping out a perfect universe, and that it has a plan to rectify the imperfect actions of that universe's inhabitants. Now does it count as god?