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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:17 am
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(November 9, 2017 at 11:12 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: (November 9, 2017 at 11:04 am)Khemikal Wrote: Then they should edit out the claims to "natural science knowledge". Until they do that..magic book can, as a point of fact..be disproven by physics or any other relevant scientific discipline.
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Does the book claim that ? .....yeah. Again, what are the first three words?
Quote:It is what the church claims.Why? Because they want to manipulate .
Sure, but they also claim it because they believe what it says about "natural science knowledge".
Quote:They want to manipulate just becaute they are religiouss ? No because that is what most people want , power , they just use a different tool.
You;ve got alot to say about their motives, but their motives are irrelevant to your previous statements and any point of contention between us, or between your previous statements and facts.
Yes, magic book explicitly purports to contain a great deal of "natural science knowledge". The trouble...is that it doesn't actually contain an ounce of it. It;s claims are demonstrably false...and it is upon the backs of those claims that any comment on the subject of morality as conceived by the religious are justified.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:18 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:15 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (November 9, 2017 at 11:12 am)pool the matey Wrote: Will you apply the same standard here as well?
https://www.ucg.org/vertical-thought/pro...-the-bible
We have fossil trilobites. We don't have fossil angels.
You just said "Sorry, but until you do find evidence then it's unproven." but you won't apply that standard here...
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:20 am
What could you possibly be referring to, above...are you asking Sama to provide evidence that we don't have angel fossils?
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:20 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:15 am)Mathilda Wrote: Wow, so now we have the OP deliberately trying to derail his own thread.
Fuck off with your trolling
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:21 am
Pool, you haven't explained why your post about trilobites is interesting or relevant.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:23 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:20 am)Khemikal Wrote: What could you possibly be referring to, above...are you asking Sama to provide evidence that we don't have angel fossils?
What he said:
Quote:Sorry, but until you do find evidence then it's unproven
My response:
Quote:Trilobite fossils are found around the earth, and in all cases the level of rock beneath them does not reveal other creatures with similar features.
Quote:No previous ancestors of these arthropods have been found. Similar to some marine “bugs” we see today on the seashore that disappear into the sand when the waves retreat, trilobites had hard shells, all the basic organs, and complex eyes like those of flies, with hundreds of sophisticated lenses connected to the optic nerve going to the brain. Trilobite fossils are found around the earth, and in all cases the level of rock beneath them does not reveal other creatures with similar features.
Quote:Will you apply the same standard here as well? https://www.ucg.org/vertical-thought/pro...-the-bible
He didn't answer. He deflected because he don't want to apply the same standard.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:25 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:20 am)pool the matey Wrote: (November 9, 2017 at 11:15 am)Mathilda Wrote: Wow, so now we have the OP deliberately trying to derail his own thread.
Fuck off with your trolling
How was it trolling?
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:26 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:21 am)Mathilda Wrote: Pool, you haven't explained why your post about trilobites is interesting or relevant.
I wasn't having that conversation with you now was I? I was having that conversation with GS and I've quoted everything above look at it.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:27 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:17 am)Khemikal Wrote: (November 9, 2017 at 11:12 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Does the book claim that ? .....yeah. Again, what are the first three words?
Quote:It is what the church claims.Why? Because they want to manipulate .
Sure, but they also claim it because they believe what it says about "natural science knowledge".
Quote:They want to manipulate just becaute they are religiouss ? No because that is what most people want , power , they just use a different tool.
You;ve got alot to say about their motives, but their motives are irrelevant to your previous statements and any point of contention between us, or between your previous statements and facts.
Yes, magic book explicitly purports to contain a great deal of "natural science knowledge". The trouble...is that it doesn't actually contain an ounce of it. It;s claims are demonstrably false...and it is upon the backs of those claims that any comment on the subject of morality as conceived by the religious are justified. I see that you are reffering to free will , but some morals still remain without the free will , for example not to kill another person.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:27 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:23 am)pool the matey Wrote: He didn't answer. He deflected because he don't want to apply the same standard. You asked me the same question, I already answered it.
You know...since you turned out to be a common biology skeptic...I have a little list of kinds I;ve been trying to get a believer to weigh in on. Would you be interested?
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