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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:42 am
Christianity is wrong. Hinduism is true.
Please accept this as fact and do not pry any further DO NOT STRAWMAN ME
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:42 am
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An argument is eithersound and valid or it's not, regardless of who it's targeting, pool. Your 'argument' is an intellectual abortion, pool, and a desperate abandonment of the burden of proof. Using this against rude people wouldn't make it any more valid or useful.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:49 am
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(November 9, 2017 at 11:41 am)pool the matey Wrote: Khemikal Wrote:BINGO! "It's just a thought exercise"
What's so surprising? I already said in the beginning itself I'm not actually going to use this argument in normal conversations, just against rude people. Look in the previous pages I asked someone to respond without an appeal to emotion just logically to see if it was possible to counter. -and it was immediately shot down., You don't know what the term strawman means, the evidence you requested is trivially easy to present, and your subsequent pages of deflection are an example of desperate intellectual dishonesty.
(November 9, 2017 at 11:41 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Could be possible but I was trying to help the OP make himself clear . I don't think that the bible is ment to give scientifical knowledge because it s like giving a machinegun to a baby.
Making him clearer wouldn't have made him..or you, any less wrong. You may think that the bible isn't meant to give "scientifical" knowledge...and neither do I...and neither does pool...........but it makes "scientifical" claims regardless.
Unfortunately, the claims that interest you and pool..are based upon the truth of "scientifical" claims that are demonstrably false.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:50 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:42 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Your 'argument' is an intellectual abortion, pool, and a desperate abandonment of the burden of proof.
Intellectual abortion? Not at all. I already asked you to look up Biblical archeology and there are more than enough explanations in the Bible itself about various things my only disagreement is to subject a religious textbook that never claimed to be a scientific work to scientific scrutiny..leave that for scientific works or works that claim they can stand scientific scrutiny.
I didn't abandon the burden of proof, I shifted it, because of a unfair strawman.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:51 am
Ugh, this has gone from amusing to annoying to boring and back to annoying. I'll leave you to waddle in the mud. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you refuse to actually back up your claims.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:53 am
(November 9, 2017 at 10:44 am)pool the matey Wrote: @FatAndFaithless,
Look up "Biblical archeology".
Mister Agenda Wrote:So you actually have no idea what makes something a straw man fallacy? It's misrepresenting someone's position as something easier to refute.
The worldwide accepted position is that the Bible is a religious work. When scientific evidence is asked for God Bible is misrepresented as a scientific work so that it can be subject to scientific scrutiny to make it easier to refute it.
Khemikal Wrote:and it was immediately shot down., You don't know what the term strawman means
I've already explained the strawman to you many many times. If you still don't get it look at the conversation I had with MA above.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:53 am
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(November 9, 2017 at 11:50 am)pool the matey Wrote: (November 9, 2017 at 11:42 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Your 'argument' is an intellectual abortion, pool, and a desperate abandonment of the burden of proof.
Intellectual abortion? Not at all. I already asked you to look up Biblical archeology and there are more than enough explanations in the Bible itself about various things my only disagreement is to subject a religious textbook that never claimed to be a scientific work to scientific scrutiny..leave that for scientific works or works that claim they can stand scientific scrutiny.
I didn't abandon the burden of proof, I shifted it, because of a unfair strawman.
Your objection has been noted and discarded because it is incoherent and factually inaccurate. It literally can't have been -less- of an objection than it was, as you presented it.
You can stop your feet and tell me that you've reasserted yourself many times, but you were never any more or less wrong than you were the first time.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:54 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:53 am)pool the matey Wrote: (November 9, 2017 at 10:44 am)pool the matey Wrote: @FatAndFaithless,
Look up "Biblical archeology".
The worldwide accepted position is that the Bible is a religious work. When scientific evidence is asked for God Bible is misrepresented as a scientific work so that it can be subject to scientific scrutiny to make it easier to refute it.
Khemikal Wrote:and it was immediately shot down., You don't know what the term strawman means
I've already explained the strawman to you many many times. If you still don't get it look at the conversation I had with MA above.
Gee, it's almost as if your explanation is incoherent and useless.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:55 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:51 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Ugh, this has gone from amusing to annoying to boring and back to annoying. I'll leave you to waddle in the mud. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you refuse to actually back up your claims.
Like I already said, I'm not actually going to use this argument. It's just a "gotcha"(to use against other rude people that always use "gotcha" arguments) and to see if it can be countered.
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RE: Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman
November 9, 2017 at 11:56 am
(November 9, 2017 at 11:50 am)pool the matey Wrote: (November 9, 2017 at 11:42 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Your 'argument' is an intellectual abortion, pool, and a desperate abandonment of the burden of proof.
Intellectual abortion? Not at all. I already asked you to look up Biblical archeology and there are more than enough explanations in the Bible itself about various things my only disagreement is to subject a religious textbook that never claimed to be a scientific work to scientific scrutiny..leave that for scientific works or works that claim they can stand scientific scrutiny.
I didn't abandon the burden of proof, I shifted it, because of a unfair strawman.
Shifting the burden of proof is still a logical fallacy.
You have yet to demonstrate any strawman, except the one you yourself are committing.
Your argument fails no matter who it is directed at. At every level. And that's not me being rude, that's just a fact.
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