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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 3:16 pm
(November 10, 2017 at 2:22 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So basically you're asking whether people would rather live next to: 1) an atheist who doesn't act like an atheist or 2) a Christian who doesn't act like a Christian.
Pray, tell me what an atheist and Christian are supposed to act like in your eyes.
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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 3:37 pm
Also, I haven't been "taught" anything about atheists. Take the assertions about me out of option A, and i'd choose it.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 3:41 pm
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LOL, Neo being Neo.
It's an eay chopice between an asshole christian and a nice atheist. It;s also an easy choice between an asshole atheist and a nice christian, there;s no choice to make between a nice atheist and a nice christian - toss a fuckin coin, who cares......but where it get's really fun........
-is the choice between an asshole atheist and an asshole christian.
With an asshole atheist neighbor...at least I won't have to worry about stinkeyes and chic tracts turning up everywhere when he notices my slut daughter coming home too late in those godless miniskirts that make him feel unholy in his downtheres.
Now will I.
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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 3:43 pm
(November 10, 2017 at 2:22 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So basically you're asking whether people would rather live next to: 1) an atheist who doesn't act like an atheist or 2) a Christian who doesn't act like a Christian.
If the labels/stereotypes are dropped and it came down to choosing between person A, a nice/friendly neighbor who treats people like people and who can constructively handle/manage difference, or person B, a jerk neighbor who objectifies people and is only concerned about himself and forcing his views onto others who are different, then IMO, most reasonable, rational people would choose person A to be their neighbor.
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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 3:48 pm
(November 10, 2017 at 3:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Also, I haven't been "taught" anything about atheists. Take the assertions about me out of option A, and i'd choose it.
I vehemently disagree with the idea that you can safely assume the personality type of somebody just by a label. I mean, yeah, there are exceptions; I think I could assume a thing or two about, say, an ISIS fighter's personality. But people are fucking complex, and it is their life experience that shapes them, not belief in God or opinion on abortion. So to assume things based on whether somebody is "atheist" or "Christian" or "liberal" or "conservative" ticks me off. And so many people do it to the label they see as opposite their own. It promotes divisiveness. And then, the FUNNIEST (or saddest) thing is that, when, say, a liberal generalizes conservatives, the conservative does it to the liberal with the excuse that "they did it to me first!" Grow up you big goddamn baby.
So that's why I want Neo to clarify his post. Because I have no clue what the fuck your typical atheist or your typical Christians are supposed to "act like," and I'd love to be enlightened.
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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 3:57 pm
(November 10, 2017 at 3:43 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: (November 10, 2017 at 2:22 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So basically you're asking whether people would rather live next to: 1) an atheist who doesn't act like an atheist or 2) a Christian who doesn't act like a Christian.
If the labels/stereotypes are dropped and it came down to choosing between person A, a nice/friendly neighbor who treats people like people and who can constructively handle/manage difference, or person B, a jerk neighbor who objectifies people and is only concerned about himself and forcing his views onto others who are different, then IMO, most reasonable, rational people would choose person A to be their neighbor.
Kinda my point.
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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 4:05 pm
I would have option A on one side, and option B on the other.
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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 4:09 pm
(November 10, 2017 at 1:47 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (November 10, 2017 at 1:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Either one would be better than some muslim who screeches 5 times a day.
I doubt most Muslims in the west pray loud and outside. Now having said that, I would not want to live next to a church ringing bells on the half hour and hour, nor a Mosque belting out prayers on a public address system. But I don't think simply having a Muslim as a direct neighbor in the west I'd hear their prayers in an every day residential house.
Holy places I would not want to live next to directly because of traffic and possible noise for events. But I also would not want to live next to a Highschool football field for the same reason.
Point is I've had noisy neighbors in my life, but my objection to them had nothing to do with religion, just their noise. I like quiet neighbors. Right now I do have an asshole neighbor a few houses down who lets his dog bark all day. THAT annoys the shit out of me. I will say this though, he at least does not let the dog do that all night. I think he brings the dog in.
That has been fought successfully. Fuckers do not have a right to disturb the peace no matter how much they believe in absurd fairy tales.
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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 4:09 pm
(November 10, 2017 at 3:57 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (November 10, 2017 at 3:43 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: If the labels/stereotypes are dropped and it came down to choosing between person A, a nice/friendly neighbor who treats people like people and who can constructively handle/manage difference, or person B, a jerk neighbor who objectifies people and is only concerned about himself and forcing his views onto others who are different, then IMO, most reasonable, rational people would choose person A to be their neighbor.
Kinda my point.
It is all utter rubbish. I am an atheist. My immediate neighbours are 1) an atheist and 2) a god fearing theist.
Nevertheless, when I busted my ankle, both handed me food, full on cooked dinners. In turn, I handed out my expertise and climbed ladders fit curtains and light fittings and whatever.
The notion that atheism is some sort of excuse for narcissism is baloney that theists use to pat themselves on the back. And it doesn't really work.
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RE: Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor
November 10, 2017 at 4:32 pm
(November 10, 2017 at 3:48 pm)Aegon Wrote: (November 10, 2017 at 3:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Also, I haven't been "taught" anything about atheists. Take the assertions about me out of option A, and i'd choose it.
I vehemently disagree with the idea that you can safely assume the personality type of somebody just by a label. I mean, yeah, there are exceptions; I think I could assume a thing or two about, say, an ISIS fighter's personality. But people are fucking complex, and it is their life experience that shapes them, not belief in God or opinion on abortion. So to assume things based on whether somebody is "atheist" or "Christian" or "liberal" or "conservative" ticks me off. And so many people do it to the label they see as opposite their own. It promotes divisiveness. And then, the FUNNIEST (or saddest) thing is that, when, say, a liberal generalizes conservatives, the conservative does it to the liberal with the excuse that "they did it to me first!" Grow up you big goddamn baby.
So that's why I want Neo to clarify his post. Because I have no clue what the fuck your typical atheist or your typical Christians are supposed to "act like," and I'd love to be enlightened.
Oh, my post wasn't directed towards you. It was in response to the oroginal thread post.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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