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Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
(November 12, 2017 at 2:41 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There are many ways to prove God. You proved it from the angle that he is the living, well done.

No one here has proven your gawd, least of all you.
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#52
RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
So this person comes to a forum and instead of summarizing an actual argument decides to post a link to one of the billion apologist websites online and expects that we will go their . Then essentially accuses of denialism. Then goes on an anti empiricism pro platonic rant . Yup it's a Monday  Dodgy
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#53
RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
You cannot magic something into existence through philosophy alone. You can reason about anything but unless you can show that it applies to the real world using evidence then all you have are a load of irrelevant premises.

Besides, almost all of these so called 'proofs' rely on equivocation which hide leaps of logic.

So far without exception I have found that every theist 'proof' for the existence of a god can be re-appropriated to make a better proof that their god does not exist.
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#54
RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
(November 11, 2017 at 10:17 pm)Cyberman Wrote: How about 666 proofs for "God's" existence?

Loved the 'argument from lack of evidence'
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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#55
RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
(November 11, 2017 at 10:17 pm)Cyberman Wrote: How about 666 proofs for "God's" existence?

These are hilarious!


(November 11, 2017 at 10:21 pm)datc Wrote: There are correct proofs and incorrect ones. I see no advantage in failing to discriminate between them.

But this is even funnier as a response.
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#56
RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
(November 11, 2017 at 3:48 pm)datc Wrote: I personally don't desire to believe in rats; they are disgusting creatures; unfortunately, I am forced to believe in rats due to the overwhelming evidence that they exist.

I don't believe in rats either. There is no need as they clearly exist.

Belief only comes in where there is insufficient evidence to accept.
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
(November 13, 2017 at 8:12 am)possibletarian Wrote:
(November 11, 2017 at 10:17 pm)Cyberman Wrote: How about 666 proofs for "God's" existence?

Loved the 'argument from lack of evidence'

I like argument 121, the Argument from Persecution (II), which is a rewording of one we see a lot...

Quote:(1) Jesus said that people would make fun of Christians.
(2) I am an idiot.
(3) People often point that out.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#58
RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Can anyone think of an example of an object or entity that has actually been proven to exist by argument alone, no evidence, besides a deity? If that could be done, it would prove that at least it's possible for something to be proven to exist by argument alone.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#59
RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
(November 13, 2017 at 1:26 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Can anyone think of an example of an object or entity that has actually been proven to exist by argument alone, no evidence, besides a deity? If that could be done, it would prove that at least it's possible for something to be proven to exist by argument alone.


Arguments make use of premises.  Doing with what we observe in ourselves, we can use it to derive God. If those signs of God in us didn't exist, and we didn't know what we knew about ourselves with respect to the creator, we would not be able to prove God.

And all arguments from God make use to pointing to that connection that is a living thing, a connection that not only connects us to God, but connects us to one another, and all relationships make use of its judgment and perception and truths and it gives us our rights that no person or group of people can take away from us.

Atheists constantly make use of this connection in there living, in their relationships, etc, but are antagonistic towards what is in essence.  

Quran says (this is me paraphrasing the wage verses) love those who are that very connection to God so as to take a way to your Lord and be reminded of his light, and love them so as to properly love God and his creation, and love them as to gain eyes by which you can see and scent the holy scent.

The proof of God is with us, it not only proves God, it proves itself and what we are, and what everything is in truth.
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
(November 13, 2017 at 1:26 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Can anyone think of an example of an object or entity that has actually been proven to exist by argument alone, no evidence, besides a deity? If that could be done, it would prove that at least it's possible for something to be proven to exist by argument alone.

Like all abstract objects, ever. 

https://stanford.library.sydney.edu.au/a...t-objects/
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