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Appreciate religion
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RE: Appreciate religion
(January 4, 2018 at 4:43 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Seems like the real job and money goes in to "magical"/invisible job and money/heaven in religion. In poor countries it help people a lot. 

I think, even if religion seems retarded with its magic(everything is possible), still, a lot of people are surviving relaying on this chance. I don't know what would I do if I was born in Africa or Mexico.

NO, religions take advantage of the poor, desperate people make great recruits. 

Religion as a word broken up to it's ancient roots literally means "to bind" which is what "lig" as in "ligature" means. "Rebind" or "to bind". "Religare"  is the Latin root. 

Now, that is not to say religious people don't do good. But that good is NOT coming from an old book or a holy person in reality. It is coming from their own evolutionary empathy. That is the real reason humans do good, because they have empathy. There are certainly good religious people in every religion, sure, but the morality isn't in the religion itself, but in humans ability to be compassionate and have empathy for others.

For all the good humans claim religions do, it is constantly negated by the clammoring of competing sub sects and competition between umbrella labels within nations and among nations. Religion is a horrible way to conduct national, much less global diplomacy.

Now, it is not to say you can force any religion out of existence you cant, you'd be a monster if you tried. BUT religion does not deserve blind value. I am saying that humans have the potential to do good and be good, I simply disagree that it is coming from old mythologies , old books, or holy people. I'd say it was in our genes the entire time and that humans simply mistake that ability as being handed down to them from a super natural place or divine place.
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RE: Appreciate religion
(January 4, 2018 at 4:57 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(January 4, 2018 at 4:54 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Saudi Arabia "drowned" in the afterlife promise and has extreme order.

...Is that you admiring Saudi Arabia?  They're literally in the top 3 of utter worst human rights violators in the world. Are you fucking serious?

I didn't said that. I think, Arabs like awaiting heaven, when they are born in the middle of the desert.
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#13
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I'm willing to bet they have more than a few issues with "waiting for heaven".  They are, in an important sense...made to wait for heaven.

You're almost certainly right about some arabs, really..some people, ofc.
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I cannot parse what purple is trying to claim. Can someone translate?
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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Let's not mention all the religious leaders and speakers that have gone to Africa to preach against the use of condoms and vaccines, thus ensuring that things like AIDS and preventable diseases are still going strong in the name of some god.
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(January 4, 2018 at 4:49 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:
(January 4, 2018 at 4:47 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: What?  You realize Mexico is an extremely religious country, right?  And so is virtually every country in Africa?  How would religion prevent poor people from 'turning into Mexico' when poor people in Mexico are hugely religious?  What does this even mean?

What religion allows brutal crime as a job?

The Abrahamic ones  Dodgy
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Quote:(everything is possible)

What bilious nonsense.

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