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Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
#91
RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
When people talk about "isms," they are referring to some "distinctive doctrine, theory, system, or practice" like liberalism, communism, conservatism, or pacifism. Atheism has the suffix "ism," so it belongs in this group, right? Wrong: the suffix "ism" also means a "state, condition, attribute, or quality" like pauperism, astigmatism, heroism, anachronism, or metabolism. Is astigmatism a theory?

Is metabolism a doctrine? Is anachronism a practice? Not every word that ends in "ism" is a system of beliefs or an "ism" in the way people usually mean it. Failure to realize this

Everything atheism itself lack in being a realigion 
Belief in Supernatural Beings
Sacred vs Profane Objects, Places, Times
Ritual Acts Focused on Sacred Objects, Places, Times
Moral Code With Supernatural Origins
A Worldview and Organization of One’s Life Based on the Worldview

And no people imitating there former religious attitudes is not the same as atheism being a religion .Nor is  the state of atheism being part of a religion make atheism  a religion  in itself
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#92
RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
@Hugs
Cool story, bro...... but something tells me that KKKristians aren't interested in your interpretation of their white saviors holy word.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#93
RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
(January 20, 2018 at 12:02 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(January 19, 2018 at 11:28 pm)Fireball Wrote: Kudoed for the irony depicted... :nods:


Do you just not get it?! Lemme 'splain it, like Ricky does (much as that show sucked channel water). The KKK is an extremely christian organization. They'd set a cross of wood on fire on your lawn with no provocation. FFS, what does it take for a person of color to realize what a travesty this is? Huh

I'd like to reiterate, as has been posted by worthies other than I, it would be nice to have ONE THREAD without stupid shit in it. That would be [/internet], it would appear.
Response to both you and Khemikal below.

(January 19, 2018 at 11:33 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Whose fault is it that you don't understand their iconography and theology?  The KKK is a deeply christian organization.

Accept it, make sense of it, do what you will with it.....but don;t waste your time denying it, because that makes you look like an idiot and doesn't change their position a single iota.


 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.  A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them."
-Jesus Christ


He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him - Jesus Christ


Please explain which of the commandments of Christ the KKK observe...

Is it the one where he states thou shalt do no murder? How about the one about treating others how you would want to be treated?

Like I always have to explain to you dummies, just because one states they are a christian doesn't make it so, one has to live by christian principles. Whatever happened to requiring evidence to support a claim? However It seems when it comes to Christianity you're more than happy to accept an unsupported claim, hypocrites.


For those of us unwilling to wade through this .. did you just quote an authority no one here recognizes?  That should do the trick.
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#94
RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
(January 19, 2018 at 11:53 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Facepalm

Racism in and of itself doesn't have rituals and rites.

Literally no one has stated that racism has ritual and rites... what I stated is that racism is systematic and gave you examples of such.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/apartheid
Quote:1(in South Africa) a policy or system of segregation or discrimination on grounds of race.
 

a system of discrimination based on race is RACISM, why is that so hard to understand?


(January 19, 2018 at 11:53 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: The KKK is a specific group that does specific things.  Similarly, despite how sweeping and institutionalized Jim Crow and apartheid were, they were specific manifestations of racism.

Christians are theists, but not all theists are Christian (or even religious).  The KKK are racists, but not all racists are members of the KKK (even if they sympathize/agree with them).  Nazis are fascists, but not all fascists are Nazis.

This isn't a difficult concept.  Belief (or a lack thereof) in something doesn't equal a religion or institution.  That requires behavior.
*emphasis mine*
Isn't that literally what I said?
(January 19, 2018 at 1:32 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: A theist can believe a god exists without being religious, but theism is a system based around a belief in god also known as religion.

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(January 19, 2018 at 11:53 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: This isn't a difficult concept.  Belief (or a lack thereof) in something doesn't equal a religion or institution.  That requires behavior.
Exactly! which is why I made a distinction between 'theist' and 'theism'...
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#95
RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
Lol 

[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNMelHtYDOFaMSWGjtIf1...xFwoSJeSls]

Lol
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#96
RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
(January 20, 2018 at 12:23 am)Whateverist Wrote:
(January 20, 2018 at 12:02 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Response to both you and Khemikal below.



 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.  A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them."
-Jesus Christ


He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him - Jesus Christ


Please explain which of the commandments of Christ the KKK observe...

Is it the one where he states thou shalt do no murder? How about the one about treating others how you would want to be treated?

Like I always have to explain to you dummies, just because one states they are a christian doesn't make it so, one has to live by christian principles. Whatever happened to requiring evidence to support a claim? However It seems when it comes to Christianity you're more than happy to accept an unsupported claim, hypocrites.


For those of us unwilling to wade through this .. did you just quote an authority no one here recognizes?  That should do the trick.

Dodgy 
Why bother commenting if your not going to take the time to at least understand what the conversation is even about? I posted those quotes in response to a specific issue...
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#97
RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
-and the KKK still doesn't give a fuck what you post, Huggy.  Never has....never will.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#98
RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
Not to mention the clan . Only consider thy neighbours as thy people (white people ) not to mention some more hardcore KKK members don't even define non whites as people . Thus killing them was not considered murder.

Not being consistent in their belief does not mean they don't believe.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#99
RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
You know...I sometimes wonder what some random w. african circa 1400 would think if I handed them a time machine, and they could watch their descendants become shoddy apologists for the religion of those who would enslave and oppress their own children for the next few subsequent centuries.  Sad fucking state of affairs, if you ask me.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Beginner's Guide to Atheism.
(January 20, 2018 at 12:30 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Lol 

[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNMelHtYDOFaMSWGjtIf1...xFwoSJeSls]

Lol
I forgot to mention that I'm a theoretical physicist...

(January 20, 2018 at 12:43 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Not to mention the clan . Only consider thy neighbours as thy people (white people ) not to mention some more hardcore KKK members don't even define non whites as people . Thus killing them was not considered murder.

Not being consistent in their belief does not mean they don't believe.

What about Jews?
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