I rarely outside this forum engage in political debates . And recent online conversation reminded why i don't .Because holy fuck never have i been meet with so much ignorance . I not going to use direct quotes because he deleted his posts but also because their long ranty anyway so your not missing much . So i will just paraphrase his talking points and refute them .
1.He tries to argue that only leftist are violent but while ignoring all acts of Right Wing terrorism. And the fact that technically Islamist groups are Social Conservatives .
2.He conflates Republican with Conservative and Democrat with Socialist . Thou their are members who are either or are centrist or hold mixed views depending on topic.
3.He insists Socialism is Statist . While ignoring Anarcho and Socialist libertarianism
4. He insists the Conservatism can't be Statist . While most certainly can.
5. He denies that someone or a group can hold some Conservative and Liberal views . Political tests say otherwise .
6. Says the Nazi's were Socalist because they had Socialist in their name . Rejects the Alt Right even though they have the word ight in their name . Ignores the fact the Nazi's the fact the Nazi's hijacked the word for branding to lure Leftists into their ranks then banned Socialism and killed most of the Socialist in Germany.
7. Says the Nazi's were Socialist because they hijacked some Socialist ideas. Ignore the fact that many conservatives believe in a socalist standing military a Socialist drug control policy and a Socialist police force. Also ignores the Nazi's Social Conservative views and hatred for things like modern art .
8. Insists that because the Nazi's were hard Statists that makes them Socialists. Ignores Libertarian Socialism and the fact that Conservatives can be Statist or hold Statist views on certain topics .
9. Selectively quotes the Nazi platform to claim it's like the modern Democratic . While avoiding their views of immigration , Protectionism ,And military expansionism , Social Conservatism , Anti Egalitarianism, and Class .
10. Thinks Socialism is Nationalist . Ignores Anti Nationalist Socialism . Ignore Conservatism can be Nationalist.
11. Thinks Democracy is mob rule . While ignoring most Republics are Representative Democracies .
12. Thinks a Socialist state can't be a Republic or Democracy
13. Demands a definition of Socialism . Hates the fact i show it has competing schools of thought and is not perfect monolith .
14. Thinks the only kind of Capitalism is Laissez Faire or Free market . Ignores all other forms
15. Thinks political pluralism and holding multiple views is akin to Postmodernism .
16. Thinks politics can be reduced to binary monoliths like computer codes .
1.He tries to argue that only leftist are violent but while ignoring all acts of Right Wing terrorism. And the fact that technically Islamist groups are Social Conservatives .
2.He conflates Republican with Conservative and Democrat with Socialist . Thou their are members who are either or are centrist or hold mixed views depending on topic.
3.He insists Socialism is Statist . While ignoring Anarcho and Socialist libertarianism
4. He insists the Conservatism can't be Statist . While most certainly can.
5. He denies that someone or a group can hold some Conservative and Liberal views . Political tests say otherwise .
6. Says the Nazi's were Socalist because they had Socialist in their name . Rejects the Alt Right even though they have the word ight in their name . Ignores the fact the Nazi's the fact the Nazi's hijacked the word for branding to lure Leftists into their ranks then banned Socialism and killed most of the Socialist in Germany.
7. Says the Nazi's were Socialist because they hijacked some Socialist ideas. Ignore the fact that many conservatives believe in a socalist standing military a Socialist drug control policy and a Socialist police force. Also ignores the Nazi's Social Conservative views and hatred for things like modern art .
8. Insists that because the Nazi's were hard Statists that makes them Socialists. Ignores Libertarian Socialism and the fact that Conservatives can be Statist or hold Statist views on certain topics .
9. Selectively quotes the Nazi platform to claim it's like the modern Democratic . While avoiding their views of immigration , Protectionism ,And military expansionism , Social Conservatism , Anti Egalitarianism, and Class .
10. Thinks Socialism is Nationalist . Ignores Anti Nationalist Socialism . Ignore Conservatism can be Nationalist.
11. Thinks Democracy is mob rule . While ignoring most Republics are Representative Democracies .
12. Thinks a Socialist state can't be a Republic or Democracy
13. Demands a definition of Socialism . Hates the fact i show it has competing schools of thought and is not perfect monolith .
14. Thinks the only kind of Capitalism is Laissez Faire or Free market . Ignores all other forms
15. Thinks political pluralism and holding multiple views is akin to Postmodernism .
16. Thinks politics can be reduced to binary monoliths like computer codes .
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