Evolution

[Ravenshire]

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There is abundant evidence for evolution LR; you just haven't got a clue what evolution actually is.

When it comes to evolution, Little Rik is much like GC. Happy in his willful ignorance. Like GC, his mind is made up and no level of evidence will be considered.

Really, it's kinda sad that there are people in the world who truly don't want to learn because the facts undermine their faith.

[Little Rik]

FOOLS.

As far as real progress physical evolution is like a fart because once you die this evolution die with you.
Evolution of the consciousness instead is the real evolution because the progress that you make will be with you even after your physical death but of course considering that atheism does not believe that life goes on after physical death then atheists are left with nothing other than believe that evolution only relate to the physical aspect.

This belief however is contradicted by the fact that atheists like almost everybody else strive to get more and more knowledge everyday even if this knowledge is based on dogmas which I already exposed time and time again.

Why are you here on the forum right now?  
Isn't for learning?  
Isn't this evolution of the mind-consciouness?

Can't you see how you contradict yourself time and time again?  

Get real guys because so far you live in a world of total fantasy.  

[Whateverist]

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Do you know anything about either item -outside- of your religious beliefs?  Can you think of some factoid about either that has nothing to do with yogi bear?

Not at all Khem.  
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Well a refreshingly straightforward admission for once. Nice.

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Little Rik. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

You have no evidence and no one has any reason to listen to you.

And yet I can no more look away from Rik than I can a gruesome freeway auto accident.  Oh, the horror!

[Cod]

And yet I can no more look away from Rik than I can a gruesome freeway auto accident.  Oh, the horror!

Interacting with Rik for me is like eating pizza that's too hot and burning your mouth, but you can't help but carry on.

[The Grand Nudger]

As far as real progress physical evolution is like a fart because once you die this evolution die with you.

This has already been addressed, and is factually untrue anyway.  Evolution will not cease with my death, I will.  In my case, my part in the evolutionary drama won;t cease with my death even though it no longer affects me - being dead.  I have many, many children.  If a person doesn't have any, then..yeah..sure, their specific lineage has terminated.  

If that matters to a person, then they should get to fuckin..otherwise, what's the problem?

Evolution of the consciousness instead is the real evolution because the progress that you make will be with you even after your physical death but of course considering that atheism does not believe that life goes on after physical death then atheists are left with nothing other than believe that evolution only relate to the physical aspect.

Again, already addressed, what you are describing is not evolution, and "real evolution" already includes whatever evolutionary pressures could be related to consciousness. You aren;t going to find -anyone- who thinks that evolution and consciousness are unrelated. Your insistence that this be some "atheist article of faith" is..more accurately, a silly misconception arising from your fruity religion.

@Whatevs/Cod. LOL, thing is..his stupid ass beliefs aren;t any different from the next random believers..fundamentally. The method of delivery is the difference...and what does that tell us about the substance vs the presentation of religious belief? In a way, I find Rik entirely more refreshing than other believers, because he just can't be bothered to hide his freak flag under a mound of churchspeak and pretense towards normalcy. The rest of these fuckers are awfully cagey with their entirely similar afflictions, in comparison.

[Little Rik]

Not at all Khem.  
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Well a refreshingly straightforward admission for once.  Nice.

I find very difficult to understand how anybody can enjoy to make a point by taking somebody else sentence out of context.  
How old are you Whatever?  

Little Rik. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

You have no evidence and no one has any reason to listen to you.

And yet I can no more look away from Rik than I can a gruesome freeway auto accident.  Oh, the horror!

Your outer mind of course is unable to understand why but within in the deep of your consciousness there is a subconscious mind that tell you that LR speak the truth.
Bet you never thought of that mate, did you?  

[Little Rik]

As far as real progress physical evolution is like a fart because once you die this evolution die with you.

This has already been addressed, and is factually untrue anyway.  Evolution will not cease with my death, I will.  In my case, my part in the evolutionary drama won;t cease with my death even though it no longer affects me - being dead.  I have many, many children.  If a person doesn't have any, then..yeah..sure, their specific lineage has terminated.  

If that matters to a person, then they should get to fuckin..otherwise, what's the problem?

So you have evidence that when your body die is all over for you.  
Now let us see this important evidence Khem.
Of course you must have khem.  
You are not that type of person that go around telling BS, do you?  

Evolution of the consciousness instead is the real evolution because the progress that you make will be with you even after your physical death but of course considering that atheism does not believe that life goes on after physical death then atheists are left with nothing other than believe that evolution only relate to the physical aspect.

Again, already addressed, what you are describing is not evolution, and "real evolution" already includes whatever evolutionary pressures could be related to consciousness.  You aren;t going to find -anyone- who thinks that evolution and consciousness are unrelated. Your insistence that this be some "atheist article of faith" is..more accurately, a silly misconception arising from your fruity religion.

Where did I said that........... evolution and consciousness are unrelated?
I instead said that body evolution is meaningless in the context of individual progress while the evolution of the consciousness is most important.
Of course to develop the consciousness you need a human body but this body is like a vehicle to be discarded once it die.

@Whatevs/Cod.  LOL, thing is..his stupid ass beliefs aren;t any different from the next random believers..fundamentally.  The method of delivery is the difference...and  what does that tell us about the substance vs the presentation of religious belief?  In a way, I find Rik entirely more refreshing than other believers, because he just can't be bothered to hide his freak flag under a mound of churchspeak and pretense towards normalcy.  The rest of these fuckers are awfully cagey with their entirely similar afflictions, in comparison.

More blah, blah, blah........

By the way can you tell me why I suppose to be a religious person?   

[The Grand Nudger]

So you have evidence that when your body die is all over for you.  
Now let us see this important evidence Khem.
Of course you must have khem.  
You are not that type of person that go around telling BS, do you?   

Have corpses been emptying out of graveyards to have zombabies where you live?  No?  Yeah, me neither.   Your pathological fear of death is not my concern, but it is one of the many products of evolution.

Where did I said that........... evolution and consciousness are unrelated?
I instead said that body evolution is meaningless in the context of individual progress while the evolution of the consciousness is most important.
Of course to develop the consciousness you need a human body but this body is like a vehicle to be discarded once it die.

Evolution is not an individual metric of anything.  It doesn't matter whether or not you find meaning in the process.  It doesn't give a shit about your religion, and neither do I.

By the way can you tell me why I suppose to be a religious person?   

I couldn't begin to fathom why you suppose anything at all, Rik.

[Amarok]

Yup standard rik nothing interesting here. Except all the responses owning him .

[Little Rik]

So you have evidence that when your body die is all over for you.  
Now let us see this important evidence Khem.
Of course you must have khem.  
You are not that type of person that go around telling BS, do you?   

Have corpses been emptying out of graveyards to have zombabies where you live?  No?  Yeah, me neither.   Your pathological fear of death is not my concern, but it is one of the many products of evolution.

Exactly as I already knew son.              

You are full of it.  
You stated that when you die also consciousness in you is gone and now instead of giving evidence that that is the case you say something else that is irrelevant to the evidence.  
Fail once again son.    

Where did I said that........... evolution and consciousness are unrelated?
I instead said that body evolution is meaningless in the context of individual progress while the evolution of the consciousness is most important.
Of course to develop the consciousness you need a human body but this body is like a vehicle to be discarded once it die.

Evolution is not an individual metric of anything.  It doesn't matter whether or not you find meaning in the process.  It doesn't give a shit about your religion, and neither do I.

FOOL.

Evolution is a word that stand for progress.
Nothing much special in the word evolution except that if you are the one who evolve then it means a lot to you.
Religion on the other hand has nothing to do with evolution except for you    that you are so keen to mix it in every dish you cook.
You are obsessed with religion son.  

By the way can you tell me why I suppose to be a religious person?

I couldn't begin to fathom why you suppose anything at all, Rik.

Perfect fool son.
Talk, talk, make accusations and when I asked you to put up or shut up you back off.  

Fail again Khem.