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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 8, 2018 at 7:39 pm
(March 8, 2018 at 5:30 pm)Lek Wrote: (March 8, 2018 at 5:08 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: The fact you don't get it Lek means the position is solid
So you do want open borders? Why?
It doesn't matter what he wants or what he thinks about our border policies. Tizhertard isn't a U.S. citizen and he doesn't live here in the States.
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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 8, 2018 at 8:09 pm
(March 8, 2018 at 6:15 pm)Lek Wrote: (March 8, 2018 at 5:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: States rights is for good old boy issues like shooting, standing your ground and refusing to bake cakes for gays. Liberals are not imbued by a creator with anything inalienable owing to their lack of belief.
California (I live here.) doesn't know what they want. In order to control immigration you must enforce immigration laws. I hear no suggestions from California on how to effectively control immigration. All they want to do is impede any efforts at enforcement.
Pretty sure one thing they want is to get those crops picked and cheap labor for all kinds of other unappealing work. But the Donald only wants to bring in the ones who can compete with our own college educated kids. Weird.
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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 8, 2018 at 8:25 pm
Quote:So you do want open borders? Why?
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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 8, 2018 at 8:59 pm
(March 8, 2018 at 6:15 pm)Lek Wrote: (March 8, 2018 at 5:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: States rights is for good old boy issues like shooting, standing your ground and refusing to bake cakes for gays. Liberals are not imbued by a creator with anything inalienable owing to their lack of belief.
California (I live here.) doesn't know what they want. In order to control immigration you must enforce immigration laws. I hear no suggestions from California on how to effectively control immigration. All they want to do is impede any efforts at enforcement. In California under the State Constitution aliens are granted extra rights that are not specified in the Federal Constitution. It does not differentiate between legal and illegal aliens. The central question is whether or not an illegal alien can become a citizen of a State without becoming a citizen of the United States. So if an illegal alien moves to California he can buy real estate and establish residence, in effect becoming a citizen of California although he is not an American citizen and won't be considered a citizen in any other State.
So the issue is a legitimate Federal Constitutional issue. Can aliens become State citizens without becoming American citizens? Has anyone ever taken this issue to court?
In 1927 Oregon repealed the section of its State Constitution by popular vote that had prohibited Negroes, Chinamen, and Mulattos from voting although those groups had the right to vote under the Federal Constitution. https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Suffrage_...June_1927)
[url=https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Suffrage_for_%22Negroes,_Chinamen_and_Mulattoes%22,_Measure_1_(June_1927)][/url]So if it was legal for Oregon to deny American citizens of their political rights can a State grant illegal aliens State citizenship rights although they are not American citizens?
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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 8, 2018 at 10:08 pm
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(March 8, 2018 at 9:46 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: You have to go easy on Sessions. Disputes such as this are practically designed to fuck with an old conservative Southerner's head.
States rights . . . too many brown people. States rights . . . too many brown people. Well hellfire! What am I supposed to do?
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Even in the pre-Civil War era, the dilemma was clear, especially as the 1850s increased the rights of slaveholders with the Fugitive Slave Act, the Kansas-Missouri Compromise, and the Dred Scott decision; but it didn't bother the South. If it fucked up the lives of black people, who cared if they technically infringed on the rights of states to do what they wanted, just as long as the Southern slaveholders could keep on doing the same thing they wanted to do?
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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 9, 2018 at 2:47 am
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(March 8, 2018 at 9:46 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: You have to go easy on Sessions. Disputes such as this are practically designed to fuck with an old conservative Southerner's head.
States rights . . . too many brown people. States rights . . . too many brown people. Well hellfire! What am I supposed to do?
*Flips coin*
A true southern traitor knows, that despite the propganda, his beloved slaveocracy was also against states rights, looking toforce slavery and extra taxes on everybody. And that "states rights" was only a post bellum ruse to get past reconstruction.
Are you implying that Sessions isn't a son of the south?
(March 8, 2018 at 6:15 pm)Lek Wrote: (March 8, 2018 at 5:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: States rights is for good old boy issues like shooting, standing your ground and refusing to bake cakes for gays. Liberals are not imbued by a creator with anything inalienable owing to their lack of belief.
California (I live here.) doesn't know what they want. In order to control immigration you must enforce immigration laws. I hear no suggestions from California on how to effectively control immigration. All they want to do is impede any efforts at enforcement.
Lek, most Californians care more about their economy that Drumpfuck's neo-nazi bullshit or your uncle Tom cock sucking. I would have thought you'd have gotten that by now, but you've amply demonstrated your inability to grasp the most badic of ideas.
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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 9, 2018 at 7:07 am
Wait a second, wasn't this the administration that was obsessed with states rights?
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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 9, 2018 at 12:17 pm
(March 8, 2018 at 6:15 pm)Lek Wrote: (March 8, 2018 at 5:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: States rights is for good old boy issues like shooting, standing your ground and refusing to bake cakes for gays. Liberals are not imbued by a creator with anything inalienable owing to their lack of belief.
California (I live here.) doesn't know what they want. In order to control immigration you must enforce immigration laws. I hear no suggestions from California on how to effectively control immigration. All they want to do is impede any efforts at enforcement.
Immigration laws here in California were enforced long before Trump and Sessions came along. President Obama was called the deportation president by the Latino community because of the high number of deportations made during his administration.
The problem with the current administration is they are obsessed with getting everyone out, including immigrants who've lived in the US for decades and lived otherwise law-abiding lives and also including immigrants who've served in the US military. This broad-brush approach is a problem, not a solution.
Also, California is the 6th largest economy in the world. Many immigrants here work hard, start small businesses and otherwise contribute to our economy. We have a successful economy in the Golden State because of immigrants, not in spite of.
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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 9, 2018 at 1:25 pm
If all of those hard-working illegal aliens moved to Venezuela and started businesses there and paid taxes there they could get Venezuela out of the doldrums. That's a real land of opportunity.
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RE: This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions
March 9, 2018 at 9:20 pm
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(March 9, 2018 at 1:25 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If all of those hard-working illegal aliens moved to Venezuela and started businesses there and paid taxes there they could get Venezuela out of the doldrums. That's a real land of opportunity.
You act like it's not a hell of a lot easier to get to America (where minimum wage laws allow them to earn more than in an hour than many of them have to live on in a day) than Venezuela. And I'm not sure things would be a lot easier for illegal immigrants in Venezuela than in America, except maybe they'd have to deal with less bullshit from xenophobes like you. Maybe.
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