Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition

[Mechaghostman2]

So after watching Aron Ra debate Kent Hovind, the only question I have now is what in the ever lasting fuck is a Kind? It seems inconsistent and to move around all over the place pending on how the creationists see fit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYbSQgLhayI

[JackRussell]

Ah welcome to the creationist world of Baraminology, a treasure trove of pseudo science coupled with utter delusion.

They really are below Peter on the chart.

[Fake Messiah]

Kent Hovind is a creationist. There are also "Truthers" who believe that 9/11 was an inside job, "choicers" that believe that people make an active, conscious decision to be gay, "birthers" believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, and "deathers" believe that Osama bin Laden is alive and well and living in with Obamas - sleeping between Barack and Michelle.

Like their truther, birther, and deather brethren, creationists are nut jobs who can't be swayed by the evidence (which they refuse to look at and then claim doesn't exist) or by reason (which they lack any capacity for).

The scientific evidence that  the Earth is billions of years old, and life on this planet evolved over hundreds of millions of years is kept in the same locked filing cabinet with the evidence that homosexuality is not a choice and that climate change is real. Everyone seems to have a key to this filing cabinet with the exception of conservative politicians, evangelical ministers, talk radio hosts, bigots, racists and the majority of the GOP's base.

[Huggy Bear]

"Kind" is very much defined, it's synonymous with sort or species.

[The Grand Nudger]

Is it, though?

What "kind" do the following belong to;

1.   Tiger
2.   St. Augustine Grass
3.   Mouse
4.   Tobacco
5.   Wolf
6.   Psilocybe Cubensis
7.   Great White Shark
8.   Bacillus Thuringiensis
9.   Live Oak
10. Potato
11. Orangutan
12. Hyena
13. Mackeral
14. Housecat
15. Corn
16. Beagle
17. Humans
18. Stingray
19. Fruit Bat
20. Eggplant
21. Lemur
22. Mycobacterium Avium
23. Agaricus Bisporus
24. Chestnut
25. Horsetail Fern

Our answers to the above would demonstrate whether or not "kind" was synonymous with "species" or "sort" (whatever that's supposed to be).

[Mechaghostman2]

"Kind" is very much defined, it's synonymous with sort or species.

So when the ringed salamander creates a new species every few months, is that evidence of one kind turning into another?

[Minimalist]

Huggy and Hovind are two of a Kind.

Assholes.

[Mechaghostman2]

"Kind" is very much defined, it's synonymous with sort or species.

[Amarok]

So huggies sticking with kind meaning species. Bold considering most creationist see the flaw in that and have moved on .

[Huggy Bear]

"Kind" is very much defined, it's synonymous with sort or species.

So when the ringed salamander creates a new species every few months, is that evidence of one kind turning into another?

What determines their inability to produce offspring?

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Is it, though?

What "kind" do the following belong to;

1.   Tiger
2.   St. Augustine Grass
3.   Mouse
4.   Tobacco
5.   Wolf
6.   Psilocybe Cubensis
7.   Great White Shark
8.   Bacillus Thuringiensis
9.   Live Oak
10. Potato
11. Orangutan
12. Hyena
13. Mackeral
14. Housecat
15. Corn
16. Beagle
17. Humans
18. Stingray
19. Fruit Bat
20. Eggplant
21. Lemur
22. Mycobacterium Avium
23. Agaricus Bisporus
24. Chestnut
25. Horsetail Fern

Our answers to the above would demonstrate whether or not "kind" was synonymous with "species" or "sort" (whatever that's supposed to be).

*Emphasis mine*

No, any dictionary or thesaurus will tell you that "kind" is synonymous with "species" or "sort"...