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Nationwide A March For Our Lives
#81
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 7:44 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 6:51 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Defund cancer screenings? Lol. I mean I'm sure you are referencing defund planned parenthood signs, but I'm equally sure the majority of pro-life people are fine with the cancer screening part of what they do, and just care about abortions.
Lol then it's you who is being foolish. They want to defund the whole organization not just they abortion part. The whole organization . That would include cancer screening . So yes the comic is accurate because that would be the result of defunding the organization .Which they want to do.

I'm sure if they could defund the abortions and keep the rest of it, that's what they'd do. If given the option between that or keeping it in it's whole.

I'm pro choice, but i feel no need to make prolifers seem like they are in favor of kids dying of aids.
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#82
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 9:07 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 8:59 am)Lok1 Wrote: Yes, the narrative is the most important thing. Ignore all else while the bodies stack up.

Yes it is because you are talking about entirely different things. How would you march against stupidity ? 
Most car deaths are accidental so they are noy equivalent with gun deaths wich are murders wich are willed not made by accident.
This march is about restricting peoples means to express violence.

Death by automobile is, most often, much more violent than being shot, regardless of intent. Ignoring the starkly disparate numbers shows a cold disregard toward easily available statistics. That leads to plausible presumptions that the motive(s) behind the marches are other than what is claimed.
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#83
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 9:31 am)Lok1 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 9:07 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Yes it is because you are talking about entirely different things. How would you march against stupidity ? 
Most car deaths are accidental so they are noy equivalent with gun deaths wich are murders wich are willed not made by accident.
This march is about restricting peoples means to express violence.

Death by automobile is, most often, much more violent than being shot, regardless of intent. Ignoring the starkly disparate numbers shows a cold disregard toward easily available statistics. That leads to plausible presumptions that the motive(s) behind the marches are other than what is claimed.

We aren't discussing wich is more nasty, that is irrelevant. Regardless of the way you die you still die, comenting wich is a more violent death is irelevant . The fac is that car deaths are accidental and gun death are intentional, that is big fucking difference. Besides that car deaths are pressent in all developed countrys, gun deaths on the other hand are not, they are something specific to the USA.
The march claims stricter gun laws wich lead to fewer means of expressing violence wich leads to fewer murders( intentional deaths).
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#84
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 8:39 am)Lok1 Wrote: Teen-driver automobile accidents claim thousands more lives annually than all school shootings combined. But let's ignore that inconvenient truth and demonize a bogeyman for the political points and virtue-signalling ego strokes that make us 'feel better.'

Other bad shit happens so do nothing about this...... Nope, sorry, that is bullshit and a dodge. Vehicles are not intended to kill, firearms are. 

And with vehicles there ARE laws that make you prove you can handle the responsibility BEFORE you get a licence. There are laws that can take your license away for speeding, reckless driving and especially drunk driving. There are even RECALL protocols for defective designs, and the ability to sue the car company for producing such. You can own a vehicle but you cant drive a Indy 500 open wheel car, or a Monster Truck show truck on a public road. And even though car companies can be slow to change, they are far more likely to work towards more safe products. Car companies are now working on censors to prevent you from hitting objects around you. Now while they are not 100% effective right now, that is far more than the NRA advocates for in a "smart gun". If you own a firearm, why the hell would you not want one that nobody else can use? Car security is way ahead as far as chipped doors and key chains that need to be near the car or in the car before it will start. And just like a car, if your car gets stolen it can be tracked. Why wouldn't you want a stolen gun to be tracked?
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#85
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 9:44 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 9:31 am)Lok1 Wrote: Death by automobile is, most often, much more violent than being shot, regardless of intent. Ignoring the starkly disparate numbers shows a cold disregard toward easily available statistics. That leads to plausible presumptions that the motive(s) behind the marches are other than what is claimed.

We aren't discussing wich is more nasty, that is irrelevant. Regardless of the way you die you still die, comenting wich is a more violent death is irelevant . The fac is that car deaths are accidental and gun death are intentional, that is big fucking difference. Besides that car deaths are pressent in all developed countrys, gun deaths on the other hand are not, they are something specific to the USA.
The march claims stricter gun laws wich lead to fewer means of expressing violence wich leads to fewer murders( intentional deaths).

What part of "regardless of intent" can you not grasp? Do yourself a big favor and look into "reading comprehension" and how it can benefit you. Aside from repeating yourself in your first 2 sentences, you are either woefully uninformed, or simply lying about gun deaths being specific to the USA. I'm going with the latter, for obvious reasons; the internet is the most powerful information gathering/learning tool ever created. Your excuse for not taking advantage of it is inexplicable. Especially when it is so easily used to disprove blatant lies like yours.
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#86
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 9:58 am)Lok1 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 9:44 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: We aren't discussing wich is more nasty, that is irrelevant. Regardless of the way you die you still die, comenting wich is a more violent death is irelevant . The fac is that car deaths are accidental and gun death are intentional, that is big fucking difference. Besides that car deaths are pressent in all developed countrys, gun deaths on the other hand are not, they are something specific to the USA.
The march claims stricter gun laws wich lead to fewer means of expressing violence wich leads to fewer murders( intentional deaths).

What part of "regardless of intent" can you not grasp? Do yourself a big favor and look into "reading comprehension" and how it can benefit you. Aside from repeating yourself in your first 2 sentences, you are either woefully uninformed, or simply lying about gun deaths being specific to the USA. I'm going with the latter, for obvious reasons; the internet is the most powerful information gathering/learning tool ever created. Your excuse for not taking advantage of it is inexplicable. Especially when it is so easily used to disprove blatant lies like yours.

The issue of this thread is not automobile deaths REGARDLESS OF INTENT.

The issue is firearm violence. Try some reading comprehension yourself. 

Do you find the average of 96 firearm deaths per day acceptable? Yes/no..... THAT is what we are talking about in this thread. 

I also have issues with use of cell phones and computer screen dashes in cars, BUT that is not the topic of this thread. If you want to make a thread about auto safety make one. We are discussing firearm safety in this thread.
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#87
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 9:58 am)Lok1 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 9:44 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: We aren't discussing wich is more nasty, that is irrelevant. Regardless of the way you die you still die, comenting wich is a more violent death is irelevant . The fac is that car deaths are accidental and gun death are intentional, that is big fucking difference. Besides that car deaths are pressent in all developed countrys, gun deaths on the other hand are not, they are something specific to the USA.
The march claims stricter gun laws wich lead to fewer means of expressing violence wich leads to fewer murders( intentional deaths).

What part of "regardless of intent" can you not grasp? Do yourself a big favor and look into "reading comprehension" and how it can benefit you. Aside from repeating yourself in your first 2 sentences, you are either woefully uninformed, or simply lying about gun deaths being specific to the USA. I'm going with the latter, for obvious reasons; the internet is the most powerful information gathering/learning tool ever created. Your excuse for not taking advantage of it is inexplicable. Especially when it is so easily used to disprove blatant lies like yours.
I know what you sayed , I explained that intent does matter or are you claiming that if I trip and fell over you and somehow you fall too and hit your had in the process and die it is the same thing as me stabbing you to death with a machete ? Trust me , I get a lot of information from the internet but my source isn't NRA.com.

About" reading comprehension" I sayed " gun deaths are an expresion of human violence" and you sayed " car deaths are more violent", when you figure out the difference between the two come back here.

And for the record , if you consider that intent doesn't matter( it does matter ) that doesn't make it true, I just ignored your profound dumbness.

Edit Tongueeople don't drive cars and say " Hei look a kid , lets hit the little fucker".
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#88
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 9:48 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 8:39 am)Lok1 Wrote: Teen-driver automobile accidents claim thousands more lives annually than all school shootings combined. But let's ignore that inconvenient truth and demonize a bogeyman for the political points and virtue-signalling ego strokes that make us 'feel better.'

Other bad shit happens so do nothing about this...... Nope, sorry, that is bullshit and a dodge. Vehicles are not intended to kill, firearms are. 

And with vehicles there ARE laws that make you prove you can handle the responsibility BEFORE you get a licence. There are laws that can take your license away for speeding, reckless driving and especially drunk driving. There are even RECALL protocols for defective designs, and the ability to sue the car company for producing such. You can own a vehicle but you cant drive a Indy 500 open wheel car, or a Monster Truck show truck on a public road. And even though car companies can be slow to change, they are far more likely to work towards more safe products. Car companies are now working on censors to prevent you from hitting objects around you. Now while they are not 100% effective right now, that is far more than the NRA advocates for in a "smart gun". If you own a firearm, why the hell would you not want one that nobody else can use? Car security is way ahead as far as chipped doors and key chains that need to be near the car or in the car before it will start. And just like a car, if your car gets stolen it can be tracked. Why wouldn't you want a stolen gun to be tracked?

No one, except ISIS jihadis and psychopaths, gets behind the wheel of a vehicle with the "intent" of killing others. So you just ignore that growing mountain of mutilated corpses because it doesn't fit your definition of what the intended use of an object is? How convenient, but the body count keeps growing. How are those laws regarding vehicle responsibilities working on slowing the growth of that mountain of mutilated corpses? Your knowledge of smart guns, and the NRA's position on them, is purely left-wing-uninformed. Your simplistic questions clearly reveal that you have not put any effort into researching the subject (that means the positions of BOTH sides) that doesn't fit your preconceived, feel good, knee jerk notions.
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#89
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
(March 25, 2018 at 9:44 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 9:31 am)Lok1 Wrote: Death by automobile is, most often, much more violent than being shot, regardless of intent. Ignoring the starkly disparate numbers shows a cold disregard toward easily available statistics. That leads to plausible presumptions that the motive(s) behind the marches are other than what is claimed.

We aren't discussing wich is more nasty, that is irrelevant. Regardless of the way you die you still die, comenting wich is a more violent death is irelevant . The fac is that car deaths are accidental and gun death are intentional, that is big fucking difference. Besides that car deaths are pressent in all developed countrys, gun deaths on the other hand are not, they are something specific to the USA.
The march claims stricter gun laws wich lead to fewer means of expressing violence wich leads to fewer murders( intentional deaths).

Everyone dies? NO KIDDING.

I'm Wolf Blitzer in the situation room, our top story tonight..... NO SHIT.

Nope sorry, "Other bad shit happens do do nothing about this" is a cop out excuse Lok1.

Car deaths happen in Australia too, but you want to know when their last mass shooting was? Look it up.
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#90
RE: Nationwide A March For Our Lives
Another case of " I love my propaganda , leave me alone".
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