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Arguments for God in Quran.
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Is the moral argument that MK is refusing to articulate the idea that God is required to account for objective morality? Or is he talking about the one where if there is no afterlife, those who violate or uphold morality will never receive their just desserts? Or some other one? I can't tell from the verse provided.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
I’m not sure. Im thinking the first, as it seems to be his shining favorite.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Who knows. At some point he'll have to present whatever his argument is supposed to be and drop the religious chanting.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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April 2, 2018 at 12:36 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2018 at 12:40 pm by Mystic.)
(April 2, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Is the moral argument that MK is refusing to articulate the idea that God is required to account for objective morality? Or is he talking about the one where if there is no afterlife, those who violate or uphold morality will never receive their just desserts? Or some other one? I can't tell from the verse provided. The verse provides exactly the paradigm I mean, in better, shorter words. I can't do it justice. What do you make of the word guidance, and what do you make of the word guidance is from God? Moral argument again: And who is more astray than one who follows his desire without guidance from Allah ? Indeed, Allah does not guide the oppressors/unjust.  RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 12:38 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2018 at 12:40 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(April 2, 2018 at 12:29 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(April 2, 2018 at 12:26 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Wrong about what? The Quran is full of slavery. (April 2, 2018 at 12:35 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’m not sure. Im thinking the first, as it seems to be his shining favorite. Yeah he's gone from providing shitty arguments to merely alluding to shitty arguments lol. "Guess which one I've got guys!" "What crap have you got now MK?" "No... GUESS!" RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 12:43 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2018 at 12:44 pm by Mystic.)
Guys it's very easy to extract from the verse.
1. There is such thing as real guidance (moral guidance that love acts by) 2. The real guidance would be guidance from God or otherwise impossible. 3. Therefore God exists. And in that paradigm, in that Surah, it's also used to prove to Jews and Christians, there must be interpreters and guides from God, rope from God but a rope from humans, and not to mix the misguidance of false leaders with guidance of leaders from God. Since it's multilayered, and proves Messengers and the form of chosen families in 3:33 as well, and proves Mohammad and his family as well, that's not all you can't extract from it. And you can apply to many things. You can even apply it to the fact God would provide a consistent guidance regarding number of successors, as elaborated by 5:12, and everything in Quran is linked some way or another. RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 12:49 pm
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(April 2, 2018 at 12:43 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Guys it's very easy to extract from the verse.Premise one is false. Premise two is false -and the conclusion doesn't follow from premise one or two anyway. Next.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Argument:
(definition 2.) A reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong. “there is a strong argument for submitting a formal appeal" synonyms: reasoning, justification, explanation, rationalization; More
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken. RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 12:53 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2018 at 12:55 pm by Mystic.)
So now we know why the chaotic winds take you wherever they please
 The Quran also in this paradigm asserts What is after the truth but misguidance? So it's either true guidance or it's misguidance. No wonder you guys are never guided to God, you believe there is only such a thing as misguidance
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