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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:05 am
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What;s the problem, MK? Do you deny that there are moral facts?
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:07 am
No, I'm asking where they are found. The situation is not the moral fact. So they aren't found in every situation the moral fact applies to, they apply to the situation, but are found somewhere else.
You are avoiding the question like a scared little boy from a Lion.
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:08 am
K, wonderful. You agree that there are moral facts. We agree. Do you deny that a moral statement, if it gets those facts right, would be true?
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:09 am
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When ever you're ready. Hammy answered directly, but I showed how it's a paradox by definition of morality and guidance.
Hence, I see why Hammy wants to deny the term "guidance" with respect to morality.
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:11 am
I;m gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that you don;t deny that either. So there we have the two statements that describe what moral realism is...both of which you agree with..and yet..a few posts ago...decided were wrong?
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:13 am
Lol. Keep trying to divert. Whenever you are ready.
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:14 am
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Divert from what, your own questions? If you didn't want the answers..why did you ask? If you agree with both answers, why claim that they;re wrong?
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:15 am
Not so you can avoid it like a scared little boy.
Whenever your man enough to answer... I'll lead you to the next step.
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:17 am
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A little less projecting would probably help you get over your hangups. You asked me about my moral system. I told you that my moral system refers to moral facts and asserts that if it gets those facts right, the moral statements would be true. You agree. I think. You're free to change your mind about that at any time. You could assert that there are no moral facts, you could assert that getting those moral facts right wont lead to a true moral statement.
Those are the only options, because that is what moral realism is. If you want to assert that it;s "wrong"..you would have to assert one or both of those two things.
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 3, 2018 at 7:19 am
The disagreement was never about that.
So whenever you're ready.
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